[j-nsp] Qfabric

[Darren Bolding]

To be fair, the EX switches offer flavors that virtual chasis/cluster/stack
nicely, and are managed via one IP.

The stacking can be done both by proprietary VC cables or over 10G links,
allowing rows of cabinets to have a redundant loop via a 10G connection
between the first and last cabinets.

May still justifiably be called a hack, but perhaps less than one requiring
a separate IP/Switch per cabinet.  This is true with or without QFabric in
the equation.

--D

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Chris Evans <chrisccnpspam2 at gmail.com>wrote:

> I think its a sexy solution however it falls short in areas to meet our
> needs. I think Juniper has something going for them, however its misses on
> a
> lot of contexts so far.
>
> 1. We no longer install structured copper in our data centers as we have
> gone fully top of rack. The edge Qfabric devices require a copper
> connection
> back to the routing engine complex. It needs to option to use sfp optics so
> we can do fiber for this link.
>
> 2. We still like most people deploy 90% GigE and will for the next year or
> so at least. Stratus needs a copper GigE offering. Even if we went full
> 10Gig for production interfaces, servers still need management connectivity
> which iare copper based and also 100Meg most times. Our account team
> suggested that we deploy EX devices to meet these needs, however that is a
> hack solution and something we won't entertain. Deploying EX's gets us back
> to the original issue of having remote devices all managed individually.
>
> 3. Stratus needs a smaller fabric offering. Scaling a network
> infrastructure
> with such a large risk, fault, change domain brings big concerns. It'd be
> nice to have a smaller fabric offering to compartmentalize the network a
> bit.
>
>
> Doug it'd be nice if you could comment on my comments above if you have
> some
> insider info :) It'd also be nice if you could take this feedback to the
> engineering teams for their input. We already have our account team doing
> so, but another path of contact is always beneficial.
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2011 7:35 PM, "Doug Hanks" <dhanks at juniper.net> wrote:
> > First phase of Stratus. It's awesome.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: juniper-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> juniper-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Keegan Holley
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 4:10 PM
> > To: juniper-nsp
> > Subject: [j-nsp] Qfabric
> >
> > Does anyone know what Qfabric is yet? After the video where Pradeep
> Sindhu
> > spends 1:45 talking about how they are going to change the world and 0:45
> > talking about the technology I gave up trying to cut through the
> marketing
> > buffer. It sounds like their implementation or answer to trill with some
> of
> > the virtual chassis stuff you see from the nexus thrown in. Anyone else
> get
> > more than that?
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