[j-nsp] NAT Redundancy on Juniper routers

Derick Winkworth dwinkworth at att.net
Mon Jan 10 09:46:21 EST 2011


Keep in mind that if you haven't already done so, you will need to have both an 
'inside' and 'outside' rule for your NAT translation since the junos-ip ALG is 
unidirectional.





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From: Alex <alex.arseniev at gmail.com>
To: Gökhan Gümüş <ggumus at gmail.com>
Cc: juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net
Sent: Mon, January 10, 2011 7:18:25 AM
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] NAT Redundancy on Juniper routers

Then you are in a better position than I thought :-)
Just change your NAT rule(s) to include match on "junos-ip" ALG which skips L4 
checks like TCP 3WHS being complete, and test.
Let us know the test results please.
Rgds
Alex
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gökhan Gümüş 
  To: Alex 
  Cc: juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net 
  Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 1:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [j-nsp] NAT Redundancy on Juniper routers


  Actually i am doing Static-Nat 1:1 :(

  Rgds,
  Gokhan


  On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Alex <alex.arseniev at gmail.com> wrote:

    Actually on a second thought I reckon You might be able to achieve 
physical-box NAT redundancy using static NAT and IP-ALG but:
    1/ it is not scalable (static NAT is 1:1)
    2/ I never tried this myself :-)
    Where the port translation is involved the sequence of events is as I 
described below.
    Rgds
    Alex

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Gökhan Gümüş 
      To: Alex 
      Cc: juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net 
      Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 12:46 PM
      Subject: Re: [j-nsp] NAT Redundancy on Juniper routers


      Hi Alex,

      Thanks for the response.
      So there is nothing i can do at this moment :(

      Regards,
      Gokhan


      On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Alex <alex.arseniev at gmail.com> wrote:

        Hello Gokhan Gumus,
        AFAIK this is not possible at the moment since flows are not shared 
between MSDPCs even inside same MX box let alone different physical boxes.
        So if R1 goes down the:
        1/ TCP flows need to reestablish starting from 3-way handshake
        2/ UDP flows with ALG need to reestablish starting from scratch (every 
ALG has different procedures)
        3/ non-ALG UDP flows _can_ continue as if nothing happened depending on 
protocol, e.g. p2p UDP flows will resume from last xferred piece
        4/ ICMP flows continue as if nothing happened
        If you need physical-box-redundant NAT I'd suggest to use SRX cluster.
        HTH
        Rgds
        Alex

        ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gökhan Gümüs" <ggumus at gmail.com>
        To: <juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net>
        Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 12:15 PM
        Subject: [j-nsp] NAT Redundancy on Juniper routers



          Hi all,

          I am trying to achieve redundancy on Juniper routers while performing 
NAT.

          I have two Juniper MX960 router on the backbone with VRRP setup.I am
          configuring NAT on R1 successfull.Same NAT rules are existing on the 
other
          router but on R2,static route which is pointing sp interface is
          deactivated.Is there anyway to achieve automatic failover capability 
on
          NAT?In other words if something happened on R1, can R2 handle all NAT
          process without doing anything?

          Kind regards,
          Gokhan Gumus

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