[j-nsp] Cisco ASR 9001 vs Juniper MX104
Stepan Kucherenko
twh at megagroup.ru
Wed Dec 2 14:07:32 EST 2015
Some RE-S-1800X4, yeah.
ASR9k has RSP440, so quad core x86 as well. Comparable I think.
Not sure about 7600 but definitely something old.
02.12.2015 19:18, Colton Conor пишет:
> Stephen,
>
> Which RE is that on the MX480? The RE2000 or the quad core one?
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Stepan Kucherenko <twh at megagroup.ru
> <mailto:twh at megagroup.ru>> wrote:
>
> Should've put it here in the first post, got already asked about it
> offlist couple of times.
>
> I was testing it on MX80 with slow RE, so obviously numbers will
> change on faster REs but difference will still be there.
>
> ~1.5min taking full table from MX480 (nice RE, 85k updates)
> ~3min from 7600 (old and slow RE, 89k updates)
> almost 5min from ASR9k (nice RE, 450k updates)
>
> It'll be even more noticeable when Junos will be able to run rpd on
> a dedicated core.
>
>
>
> Keep in mind that it's still not actual convergence time, Junos is
> still lagging with FIB updates long after that.
>
> Sadly I was unable to find my old convergence test numbers but krt
> queue was dissipating for at least couple of minutes after BGP
> converged. I case you're wondering if it was the known rpd bug with
> low krt priority - no, I tested it after it was fixed. Not that I'd
> call it "fixed".
>
> And that's what I don't like about MX-es :-) Not sure if it's faster
> or slower on ASR9k though.
>
>
> On 02.12.2015 12:30, James Bensley wrote:
>
> On 1 December 2015 at 17:29, Stepan Kucherenko <twh at megagroup.ru
> <mailto:twh at megagroup.ru>> wrote:
>
> My biggest gripe with ASR9k (or IOS XR in particular) is
> that Cisco stopped
> grouping BGP prefixes in one update if they have same
> attributes so it's one
> prefix per update now (or sometimes two).
>
> Transit ISP we tested it with pinged TAC and got a response
> that it's
> "software/hardware limitation" and nothing can be done.
>
> I don't know when this regression happened but now taking
> full feed from
> ASR9k is almost twice as slow as taking it from 7600 with
> weak RE and 3-4
> times slower than taking it from MX.
>
> I'm not joking, test it yourself. Just look at the traffic
> dump. As I
> understand it, it's not an edge case so you must see it as well.
>
> In my case it was 450k updates per 514k prefixes for full
> feed from ASR9k,
> 89k updates per 510k prefixes from 7600 and 85k updates per
> 516k prefixes
> from MX480. Huge difference.
>
> It's not a show stopper but I'm sure it must be a
> significant impact on
> convergence time.
>
>
> How long timewise is it taking you to converge?
>
> Last time I bounced a BGP session to a full table provider it
> took sub
> 1 minute to take in all the routes. I wasn't actually timing so I
> don't know how long exactly.
>
> Cheers,
> James.
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