[j-nsp] Buying a used Juniper

[Scott]

For kit that is used in a production environment I would always recommend
having an active support contract on it.
Even if you can source software elsewhere, it is not legit. At that point
you are violating Juniper's terms.
Secondly, knowing that you can fall back on JTAC in case of issues, is
critical on production gear imho.

If you have to shell out 2000 bucks a few times a year when you need JTAC
or software, you will be better (and cheaper) off with a support contract.

If pricing is really important to you, you might consider looking at new or
nob (new open box) which I suspect will be cheaper to get support contracts
on compared to old and used gear. It's best to check that with a Juniper
vendor to make sure.
Scott

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Aaron Dewell <aaron.dewell at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Ask your local reseller for a quote.
>
> On May 5, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Colton Conor <colton.conor at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Damien,
> >
> > Thanks for the links. From the website: Juniper Networks, Inc. requires
> an
> > inspection or a reinstatement fee for all products that were not
> originally
> > purchased, by the then current owner of the equipment, from Juniper or an
> > Authorized Juniper Partner. . Additionally, Juniper Networks, Inc.
> software
> > is only licensed to the original purchaser and the license is not
> > transferable. A re-registration fee is required to allow the legal use of
> > the Juniper Networks, Inc. software. Please check re-registration fee
> > pricing on the current Juniper Networks, Inc. Global Price List.
> >
> > How does one obtain the global price list?
> >
> > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Damien DeVille <
> damien.deville at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> You guys might want to take a look at the following for Juniper's
> policies
> >> on these matters.
> >>
> >> http://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=content&id=KB9839
> >> https://www.juniper.net/customers/support/downloads/7100156-001-EN.pdf
> >> http://www.juniper.net/support/990222.pdf
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Damien
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Colton Conor <colton.conor at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Correction, $500 per hour not $5000. So basically a one time fee of
> $2000.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Colton Conor <colton.conor at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Well, we have a smaller MX80 that doesn't have a support contract.
> >>> Called
> >>>> JTAC with an issue, and they said the unit does not have a support
> >>>> contract. They said they have a one issue/call support fee of 4 hours
> at
> >>>> $5000 an hour which does not include software updates. So it does
> sound
> >>>> like they has some sort of oh you don't have a support contract one
> time
> >>>> help fee.
> >>>>
> >>>> What's the list price on a MX480-PREMIUM-AC Juniper Base system with
> >>>> redundant RE-2000, SCB, and power supplies?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Raphael Mazelier <raph at futomaki.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Le 05/05/15 18:47, Colton Conor a écrit :
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> What are the limitations of buying a used Juniper MX router? I
> assume
> >>>>>> there
> >>>>>> will be no JTAC support, but what would it take to licenses a used
> >>> router
> >>>>>> to get JTAC support?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't know if juniper allow this, but if yes I think the price will
> >>> be
> >>>>> prohibitive :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does JTAC offer a one time support call fee for
> >>>>>> unlicensed routers?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I don't think so. And why Juniper will make this ? Juniper (as well
> as
> >>>>> other network vendor) don't like grey market.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The router in question would be a MX480. Used, we can get them for
> >>> under
> >>>>>> 20K with redundant everything and 4 10G ports. New from Juniper I
> >>> don't
> >>>>>> even want to know what these would cost.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lets try it. Juniper can make aggressive price :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Raphael Mazelier
> >>>>>
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