[j-nsp] Juniper PTX1000

[Saku Ytti]

It's very counter-productive to speak about actual buy prices, as
those vary greatly. Take it with grain of salt. I'm sure people are
paying under 15k  and over 30k for 7280.
Scale on PTX1k is much wider, and I know lot of people who have not
even included JNPR in short-list due to the price being so far off
from competition.

Purely subjective opinion, but I think PTX1k is best hardware and best
software of the three right now. But I also feel JNPR is
over-estimating how much TTM lead they have and they have no product
for the dense 100G segment, so they are very vulnerable and they are
doing great disservice to themselves by not embedding PTX1k more
aggressively to customer networks.

In fact looking at JNPR market cap, I'm worried of long term
survivability of JNPR right now. And I'd be interested to see very
radical change, split JNPR to three shops, HW, SW and white-label
integrator. Day1 white-label would sell Trio/PE + JunOS, but if they
want to do something else in future, that would be up to their CEO.
The SW and HW are competitive, but the volumes of Trio/PE they are
pushing out seem like insufficient to justify the work for producing
the chips. Which may explain the over-market asking of PTX1k. So I am
worried if current strategy of investing on own IP is advantageous to
customers. Looking at list prices, it seems like it may be a
liability. (Again this comes from someone who believes the software
and the hardware is better than competition).



On 17 December 2016 at 11:03, Raphael Mazelier <raph at futomaki.net> wrote:
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> On 17/12/2016 05:28, Colton Conor wrote:
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>> Aaron,
>>
>> About 28k including hardware, license, and 12 months of support. Not bad
>> for as many ports as it has, and full BGP.
>>
>
> Hum interesting. Price list or ?
> A bit expensive I think for this type of box, for half the price we begun to
> talk...
>
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> Raphael Mazelier
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