[j-nsp] What is your experience with the EX2200

[adamv0025 at netconsultings.com]

Yeah vote with your valet,
I guess another option would be to ask vendor to throw in bug scrub on selected code version free of charge as part of the deal. 
Yeah you reminded me of the cisco live presentation by Aleks Vidakovic in Berlin - he mentioned some new platform for code testing highly efficient in catching most of the bugs (or something along those lines). 
So yeah fingers crossed.

adam

netconsultings.com
::carrier-class solutions for the telecommunications industry::

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Saku Ytti [mailto:saku at ytti.fi]
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:43 PM
> To: ahebert at pubnix.net
> Cc: adamv0025 at netconsultings.com; juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] What is your experience with the EX2200
> 
> Are we mandating that vendors test, are we monitoring that they do and
> that it is working?
> 
> We can add to RFP requirements about test driven development, we can ask
> quarterly reports about coverage and bugs opened in different phases of
> testing and by customers. I.e. we can create financial incentive to vendors to
> do proper testing.
> 
> As much as I'd like to bash vendors, most of them actually today (very
> different story 5 or even 3 years ago) have considerable investments on
> testing and reducing customer caught bugs. Lot of the work is only
> materialising on newer release trains. So I do see light at the end of the
> tunnel and I hope it's not the train.
> 
> 
> On 11 December 2017 at 17:37, Alain Hebert <ahebert at pubnix.net> wrote:
> >     Well,
> >
> >     At budget of $200k+ for 2 sites, I'm expecting more than having to
> > road test Lada's.
> >
> > -----
> > Alain Hebert                                ahebert at pubnix.net
> > PubNIX Inc.
> > 50 boul. St-Charles
> > P.O. Box 26770     Beaconsfield, Quebec     H9W 6G7
> > Tel: 514-990-5911  http://www.pubnix.net    Fax: 514-990-9443
> >
> > On 12/11/17 10:34, adamv0025 at netconsultings.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Smells like everyone's me3600 experience, The competition is fierce
> >> nowadays forcing release of new platforms without proper regression
> >> testing.
> >> Kind of makes sense right? Allows vendors to get to market on time
> >> while saving capex related to testing, Operators test internally
> >> anyways so why to bother right?
> >> Think about it, having market converge on set of use cases and code
> >> versions and basically test for you is always more efficient than you
> >> trying to come up with a test case for every possible combination of
> >> use cases and code versions.
> >>
> >> adam
> >>
> >> netconsultings.com
> >> ::carrier-class solutions for the telecommunications industry::
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On
> >>> Behalf Of Alain Hebert
> >>> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 1:18 PM
> >>> To: juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net
> >>> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] What is your experience with the EX2200
> >>>
> >>>       Rofl, smell like my QFX5100 experience.
> >>>
> >>>       PS: And I think its more of a platform issue than a software issue.
> >>>
> >>> -----
> >>> Alain Hebert                                ahebert at pubnix.net
> >>> PubNIX Inc.
> >>> 50 boul. St-Charles
> >>> P.O. Box 26770     Beaconsfield, Quebec     H9W 6G7
> >>> Tel: 514-990-5911  http://www.pubnix.net    Fax: 514-990-9443
> >>>
> >>> On 12/09/17 14:29, Christian Scholz wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I would only buy the EX2300 if somebody points a Gun in my Face -
> >>>
> >>> seriously!
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone recommending a Device that purely relies on 15.1 Software
> >>>> does not even closely know what he is talking about...
> >>>>
> >>>> The 2300 is a Joke so far - We have 7 PR's open and weekly Core-
> Dumps...
> >>>> Stick with the EX2200 since the EX2200 is not EOL and the EX2300 is
> >>>> unusable until a fine Release (17.3 onwards) is available, fixing
> >>>> all the critical things.
> >>>> 15.1 is the new Windows Vista - unstable, unreliable and just a big
> >>>> joke - never ever ever ever use a 15.X in Production until you want
> >>>> to watch the World burn...
> >>>>
> >>>> Just my 2 cents...
> >>>>
> >>>>
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