[j-nsp] QFX5110 / VXLAN

Richard McGovern rmcgovern at juniper.net
Tue Aug 7 13:58:20 EDT 2018


They are both planned to support L3, but probably not day 1.  QFX5200/QFX5210, both shipping products, are L2 only today.  L3 VXLAN support will probably require RIOT – recycle packet.  These platforms are Broadcom based so limitation is a Broadcom limitation.

Hope this helps.

On 8/7/18, 1:50 PM, "Brian Rak" <brak at gameservers.com> wrote:

    Are the QFX5200/QFX5210 also only layer 2 EVPN-VXLAN?
    
    On 8/7/2018 1:42 PM, Richard McGovern wrote:
    > Correct.  For this functionality one needs either a 10K/MXPTX or EX9200 at current time.  These situations may also require EVPN-MPLS, versus EVPN-VXLAN.  QFX5110 is limited to EVPN-VXLAN at least today.  QFX5100 provide L2 only EVPN-VXLAN.
    >
    > Thanks for pointing this out.
    >
    > On 8/6/18, 12:40 PM, "Mike Gonnason" <gonnason at gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >      Be aware on the QFX5110 that L3 VXLAN is limited, You cannot route vxlan to
    >      vlan:
    >      https://prsearch.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=prcontent&id=PR1318178
    >      
    >      
    >      
    >      On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 3:51 PM Brant Ian Stevens <
    >      branto at argentiumsolutions.com> wrote:
    >      
    >      > And now there's the announcement of the QFX5120 and EX4650 to the mix.
    >      > Those are Trident-3 based, if I am not mistaken.  Boxes look great on
    >      > paper...
    >      >
    >      > --
    >      > Regards,
    >      > --
    >      > Brant I. Stevens, Principal & Consulting Architect
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    >      >
    >      > On 7/4/18 5:03 PM, Scott Harvanek wrote:
    >      > > Cost is a factor I don’t think I can get anyone to bite on something
    >      > bigger either as the application is solely VXLAN in a compact form factor.
    >      > >
    >      > > -Scott H
    >      > >
    >      > >> On Jul 4, 2018, at 2:20 PM, Pavel Lunin <plunin at gmail.com> wrote:
    >      > >>
    >      > >> Btw, it's a very good question if anyone here has more or less close to
    >      > real-world experience with L3 gw and evpn type 5 routes on QFX5110 or maybe
    >      > any other trident 2+ based box.
    >      > >>
    >      > >> Would much appreciate your input.
    >      > >>
    >      > >> Regards,
    >      > >> Pavel
    >      > >>
    >      > >> July 3, 2018, 18:48 Roger Wiklund <roger.wiklund at gmail.com>:
    >      > >>> Hi Scott
    >      > >>>
    >      > >>> Should be fine as L2 GW. L3 GW and Route Type 5 support is quite
    >      > recent.
    >      > >>>
    >      > >>> Beefier alternatives are QFX10002, or MX204 if you want to go MX route
    >      > with
    >      > >>> fewer ports. Both have custom ASICs with higher scale, and higher
    >      > chance to
    >      > >>> overcome caveats/limitations especially tied to chipset limitation.
    >      > >>>
    >      > >>> Regards
    >      > >>> Roger
    >      > >>>
    >      > >>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 1:48 PM, Scott Harvanek <
    >      > scott.harvanek at login.com>
    >      > >>> wrote:
    >      > >>>
    >      > >>>> Is anyone on here running 5110s for VXLAN/VTEP/EVPN and run into any
    >      > >>>> issues?  I’ve gone over the caveats list Juniper has for these in
    >      > regards
    >      > >>>> to what they won’t do in regards to VXLAN and it seems like they meet
    >      > our
    >      > >>>> needs… just curious if anyone has run into any lesser documented
    >      > issues
    >      > >>>> with them.
    >      > >>>>
    >      > >>>> I’m looking at the list here; https://www.juniper.net/
    >      > >>>>
    >      > documentation/en_US/junos/topics/concept/vxlan-constraints-qfx-series.html
    >      > >>>> <
    >      > https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos/topics/concept/vxlan-
    >      > >>>> constraints-qfx-series.html>
    >      > >>>>
    >      > >>>> Is there a better device for VXLAN on the juniper side? We’re looking
    >      > for
    >      > >>>> something comparable to the Nexus 9372 on the Cisco side.
    >      > >>>>
    >      > >>>> Cheers!
    >      > >>>>
    >      > >>>> Scott H
    >      > >>>>
    >      > >>>>
    >      > >>>>
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