[j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

[Josh Baird]

I believe this is what we are finding as well, which is unfortunate.  Maybe
we should look at the MX204 instead?  Although, it's 2X the cost (MSRP) and
only has one RE.  Thoughts?

On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 9:18 AM, Edward Dore <
edward.dore at freethought-internet.co.uk> wrote:

> Beware the bundle upgrades on the MX104 – when we looked at these in 2016,
> for some reason that our VAR couldn’t explain it was cheaper to just throw
> the MX104-MX5-AC away and buy a brand new MX104-40G-AC-BNDL bundle rather
> than purchasing the MX104-MX5-40G-UPG license.
>
>
>
> Edward Dore
>
> Freethought Internet
>
>
>
> *From: *Josh Baird <joshbaird at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Friday, 5 January 2018 at 14:08
> *To: *"alexander.marhold at gmx.at" <alexander.marhold at gmx.at>
> *Cc: *Edward Dore <edward.dore at freethought-internet.co.uk>, Juniper List <
> juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles
>
>
>
> Actually - come to find out (from my reseller), the MX104-MX5 package
> gives you two MIC slots.  Not sure if the "locking" is actually enforced or
> not on the other two.
>
>
>
> Supposedly, the overall throughput of the chassis is also limited to
> 20Gbps - again, not sure if this is enforced.
>
>
>
> Options for 10Gbps include purchasing a single MIC-3D-2XGE-XFP and
> installing it in the one open MIC slot providing two 10Gbps interfaces or
> purchasing MX104-MX40-40G-UPG to open two of the four built-in interfaces
> while also bumping overall capacity of the chassis to 40Gbps.
>
>
>
> The S-MX104-UPG-* licenses to activate the 4X10GE fixed interfaces don't
> appear to be usable on the MX104 bundle packages (like the MX104-MX5-AC).
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 4:34 AM, Alexander Marhold <
> alexander.marhold at gmx.at> wrote:
>
> Hi !
> IMHO Edward is right with his assumption:
>
> Those are the available licenses for the MX104
>
> Upgrade license to activate 2x10GE P2&3
>         MX104
>         S-MX104-ADD-2X10GE
>
> Upgrade license to activate 2X10GE P0&1
>         MX104
>         S-MX104-UPG-2X10GE
>
> Upgrade license to activate 4X10GE fixed ports on MX104
>         MX104
>         S-MX104-UPG-4X10GE
>
> License to support per VLAN queuing on MX104
>         MX104
>         S-MX104-Q
>
> Chassis-based software license for inline J-Flow monitoring on MX5, MX10,
> M40, MX80, and MX104 Series routers
>         MX5, MX10, M40, MX80, and MX104
>         S-JFLOW-CH-MX5-104
>
> With best regards
> alexander
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] Im Auftrag
> von Edward Dore
> Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Januar 2018 10:21
> An: Josh Baird; Juniper List
> Betreff: Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles
>
>
> I believe that the MX104-MX5 bundle is supposed to be locked to only
> allowing you to make use of a single MIC slot, like the MX5 version of the
> MX80. As to whether or not that is actually enforced…
>
> Edward Dore
> Freethought Internet
>
> On 04/01/2018, 18:34, "juniper-nsp on behalf of Josh Baird" <
> juniper-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net on behalf of joshbaird at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     Given the MX104-MX5-AC bundle which comes with 1 20x 1GE MIC
> pre-installed
>     (and none of the onboard 10Gbps interfaces enabled), is this box
> actually
>     limited to 20Gbps overall throughput?
>
>     Can I install another MIC (say the MIC-3D-2XGE-XFP) in an additional
> slot
>     to gain 2 10Gbps interfaces without purchasing any additional
> licensing?
>     If I do this, is overall throughput of the chassis still locked to
> 20Gbps
>     (due to the original bundle)?
>
>     I can't find anything (ie "show system license") that states there is
> an
>     overall capacity restriction, but I'm hearing mixed things from various
>     sources.
>
>     Thanks.
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