[j-nsp] QFX5110 : Q-in-Q in VXLAN

Alain Hebert ahebert at pubnix.net
Tue Sep 11 08:46:12 EDT 2018


     Hi,

     On QFX5100 the L2TP/Q-in-Q services has limitations.  I have to dig 
through my pile of tickets for details...  but I remember something 
about PVST+ packets not being forwarded at all.

     So we just switched everything to MPLS/l2circuits/VLAN CCC (for 
now) instead of battling with the QFX5100 platforms.  We'll deploy 
EVPN/VXLAN to our customers once we find a solution but we're not in a rush.

     PS: I heard a rumor that there is a fix in 18.x for the QFX5100...

     To note that the QFX5110 platform do not seem to be suffering from 
the same issues...  I suggest to get a demo to confirm the functionality.

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On 09/10/18 17:20, Pavel Lunin wrote:
> Hey,
>
> The Q-in-Q encapsulation comes from the EX2300 switches to the QFX switches
>> (the S-VLAN Q-in-Q tag is also 1001), but on the other end of the tunnel we
>> don't have the Q-in-Q frames coming.
>>
> I am curious if the packets don't leave the ingress VTEP at all or the
> tail-end VTEP can't treat them.
>
> "ping -f -s 1000" and "monitor interface traffic" can help to figure out
> where the packets are dropped. And if the VXLAN packets leave the
> core-facing interface of the ingress VTEP, I'd suggest to put a sniffer in
> the middle and take a look at the packets closely.
>
> Not that I am sure that it will work but... Juniper explicitly says that
> it's supported on all Trident2/2+/3-based switches in the very very fresh
> JUNOS (make sure that you don't miss this point).
>
> I suspect that it's not a honest Q-in-Q-in-VXLAN but some cheating, e. g.
> pop the VLAN tags and push them back on the other side, while VXLAN tunnel
> carries untagged / single-tagged frames. (Yes this requires per-vlan
> tunnels and might not work for your need).
>
> This is how VLAN-based Martini pseudowires work on those switches (even on
> EX4550, if memory serves). It's officially supported in EX-to-EX/QFX-to-QFX
> mode, where it works out-of-the-box, while in case where you have an
> MX-like router on the other end, you need to manually push/pop VLAN tags
> and disable control-word on the MX side (discussed many times in this list).
>
>
> --
> Pavel
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