[j-nsp] Junos 21+ Killing Finger Muscle Memory...

[Jeff Haas]

Chris,

The point was raised internally as part of this discussion.  No clue what our manageability folk think about the difficulty to implement this.

That said for the rest of the thread, thanks for ensuring we get some customer PRs in the system for the originally reported issue.  I’m hoping for good news to pass along in the near future.

-- Jeff




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From: Chris Lee <chris at datachaos.com.au>
Date: Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 10:16 PM
To: Jeff Haas <jhaas at juniper.net>, "juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net" <juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Junos 21+ Killing Finger Muscle Memory...

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Hi Jeff,

Any chance the CLI could make use of repeated presses of the TAB key to cycle through the completion options ?

For instance in the newer 21.x release for EX switches I note a "synchronous-ethernet" option under the show level, and my muscle memory for "show system" was reduced down to "show sy" - so could the CLI say show the "sy is ambiguous" option upon the first TAB press, but when you press TAB again it then autocompletes "synchronous-ethernet" and another TAB press to autocomplete "system" ?

root> show sy
             ^
'sy' is ambiguous.
Possible completions:
  synchronous-ethernet  Show synchronous ethernet related information
  system               Show system information
{master:0}
root>

Regards,
Chris

On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 11:45 PM Jeff Haas via juniper-nsp <juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net<mailto:juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net>> wrote:
You don't need to tell my fingers that. __

With the infrastructure as it is, the only "solution" is we stop adding things.  Good luck with that.

The general here is the explosion of keywords.  I have about 15 features sitting in my backlog that are small things to do to bgp policy.  The policy stanza is already a mess.

... and that's not including the work to let users match on flowspec filter components.

The CLI could be taught to not include certain auto-completions as a user-profile, locally, with hints from TACACS, etc... but it means we get into an inconsistent user experience.

Feel free to spend some collective thinking time on what a "this would suck less" solution would look like.  I suspect that the competing opinions on what to do will eventually involve a cage fight match.

-- Jeff


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Another offender in 21. `protocols bgp` doesn't autocomplete as it did
since `bgpmcast` was added.


me at r-mx304-lab-re1# set protocols bgp?
Possible completions:
> bgp BGP options
> bgpmcast BGP multicast options




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