[j-nsp] MX304 - Edge Router

[Saku Ytti]

On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 at 16:40, Mark Tinka via juniper-nsp
<juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net> wrote:

> I'd suggest staying very close to our SE's for the desired outcome we
> want for this development. As we have seen before, Juniper appear
> reasonably open to operator feedback, but we would need to give it to
> them to begin with.

I urge everyone to give them the same message as I've given.

Any type of license, even timed license, after it expires will not
cause an outage. And enforcement would be 'call home' via 'http(s)'
proxy, which reports the license-use data to Juniper sales, making it
a commercial problem between Juniper and you.

Proxy, so that you don't need Internet access on the device.
Potentially you could ask for encryption-less mode, if you want to log
on the proxy what is actually being sent to the vendor. I don't give
flying or any other method of locomotion fuck about leaking
information.

I believe this is a very reasonable give/take compromise which is
marketable, but if we try to start punching holes through esoteric
concerns, we'll get boxes which die periodically because someone
forgot to re-up. This is a real future that may happen, unless we
demand it must not.

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