[j-nsp] Difference in "MX204" and "MX204-HW-BASE"?

[Richard McGovern]

Agree sort of. The SW should know if model was MX204 or MX204-P-BASE/ MX204-HW-BASE. So it should know if need to enforce a license or not. The problem is that some MX204-P-BASE were sold as -IR or -R, etc. and some sold with Flex – Transition period.

There is no way for SW to know by which method a MX204-P-BASE was sold. So no way to know to enforce or not. That is one reason for “soft” enforcement. Customer (and Juniper Sales) can then determine which method was used, and get the customer a valid perpetual license at $0 so customer is good to go forever.

Now whether this approach is actually occurring, I don’t know. I service my customer base like above on an as needed basis.

FYI only, Rich

Richard McGovern
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From: Giuliano C. Medalha <giuliano at wztech.com.br>
Date: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 4:49 PM
To: Gert Doering <gert at greenie.muc.de>, Richard McGovern <rmcgovern at juniper.net>
Cc: juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net <juniper-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Subject: RE: [j-nsp] Difference in "MX204" and "MX204-HW-BASE"?
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Good evening guys, how are you ?

If I can contribute a little.

Looking from a timeline standpoint... the MX204 passed:

- MX204 with -IR and R licenses ( which were perpetual )

- MX204-P-BASE ( Which was the transition box from -IR and -R to Flex License )

- MX204-HW-BASE ( Advanced and Premium Flex Licenses with 3 years or Perpetual )

Now on the JUNOS 22, Juniper starts requesting that the licenses hashes be installed in the box. However, from my point of view, the portal for generating router licenses is not yet prepared to take an -IR or -R license and generate it in the way that version 22 understands.

For example. If you bought an MX480/MPC7 ago with -IR and -R ... the JUNOS 22 will ask you to install the hash of a license to enforce the table's software (bgp, gre, etc). However, we still haven't figured out how to generate an old MX480 or MX204 license for the new standard that JUNIPER is requiring in the JUNOS 22...

I think they forgot about that... somehow... and it will need to be resolved.

At.te

Giuliano

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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Difference in "MX204" and "MX204-HW-BASE"?

Hi,

On Wed, Jan 10, 2024 at 09:41:41PM +0000, Richard McGovern via juniper-nsp wrote:
> Now, unknown to me (they don?t tell SEs any of this info either) there
> could have been ?hard? enforcement added in some newer SW release ? RN
> should point this out (stop laughing please!!!). Juniper internal have
> discussed implementing ?hard? enforcement over the years, and with
> potential change in product management (just happens) that view may
> change. Can?t tell you yah or nah on hard enforcement.

If you do not have enough magenta coloured ink, no BGP for you...

gert
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