[nsp-sec] ISOI 5

Smith, Donald Donald.Smith at qwest.com
Thu Jun 19 10:11:01 EDT 2008



Security through obscurity WORKS against some worms and ssh attacks:)
Donald.Smith at qwest.com giac 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hank Nussbacher [mailto:hank at efes.iucc.ac.il] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:03 AM
> To: Smith, Donald
> Cc: nsp-security at puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: [nsp-sec] ISOI 5
> 
> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008, Smith, Donald wrote:
> 
> Yes, there are many good people there but I wouldn't be 
> suprised if a "bad 
> apples" slipped in.  I have no problem with the invite making 
> its way to 
> nsp-sec but people should just realize that the Gadi-lists are not as 
> vetted as nsp-sec and very sensitive issues should not be 
> discussed there.
> 
> My opinion,
> -Hank

Which I will second. He seriously considered having PRESS at his last
conference.
I convinced him and some of the other organizers that it was a bad idea.
The presentations tend to be pretty good. Most of the attendees are on
the good side.
Many also have their own agendas or goals. So I don't share as freely or
widely there as I would at an NSP-SEC meeting! I have only attended two
ISOIs and both were held in conjunction with a Microsoft security
meeting or I might not have been able to justify attendance. I will not
be attending this one because the travel would be too expensive.

My 2 copper colored aluminum conductors:)

> 
> > I admit Gadi's "vetting" process is still basically 
> undefined but he has managed to get a decent group of people 
> together to combat much of what we combat.
> >
> > The ISOI meetings I have attended in the past were 
> worthwhile in my opinion.
> > That is why I forwarded the invites.
> > If the general consensus is you would rather not receive 
> these invites I can stop forwarding them to the list.
> >
> >
> > donald.smith at qwest.com giac
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: nsp-security-bounces at puck.nether.net on behalf of 
> Hank Nussbacher
> > Sent: Thu 6/19/2008 12:02 AM
> > To: nsp-security at puck.nether.net
> > Subject: Re: [nsp-sec] ISOI 5
> >
> >
> >
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> > You forgot a smiley after that sentence, unless you 
> consider da@ or mwp@ or
> > any of the other Gadi-lists to be vetted by more than one 
> person with an
> > agenda.
> >
> > -Hank
> >
> >
> >
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