[nsp-sec] Atrivo [was: GLBX De-Peers Intercage]

Chris Morrow morrowc at ops-netman.net
Mon Sep 1 19:27:05 EDT 2008



On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:

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> On Sep 1, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Chris Morrow wrote:
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>>> I applaud GLBX's move to disconnect Atrivo/Intercage.
>> 
>> .. to stop accepting routes from atrivo/intercage. there isn't any direct 
>> evidence that they stopped being a customer. In the past Atrivo has had 
>> relationships with providers that included simply sending traffic and not 
>> routes. (atrivo had this relationship with As4436 for quite some time, 
>> probably even to this day)
>
> When 4436 changed hands, Atrivo was not part of the deal.  There was some 
> lingering connectivity after the deal finished, but it has been cleaned up 
> and Atrivo receives no connectivity, both in or out, from as4436.  Atrivo is 
> still using some nLayer owned IP space.  nLayer has given Atrivo until Sept 
> 30 to return those blocks, after which 4436 will announce more specifics & 
> /dev/null the traffic, as well as send C&D letters to whatever networks are 
> providing transit for those blocks.
>
> IOW: nLayer is clean.

agreed, there's some history, but ... today they seem better off (and 
honestly moving in that directoin for some time)

>
>
>> of course... maybe gblx did shut the interface down :) maybe one of the 2-3 
>> gblx people on-list can even say?
>
> Put another way: Is Global Crossing also clean?

that sir, was my question :) they may be having internal process issues, 
but one hopes they move quickly to disable the access.



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