[nsp-sec] intercage/atrivo

Jared Mauch jmauch at us.ntt.net
Mon Sep 22 13:13:54 EDT 2008


On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:24:36AM -0400, Jose Nazario wrote:
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> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Darren Grabowski wrote:
>
>> I can say that without a shadow of a doubt that they will only act on  
>> complaints that they receive and will not actually go out looking for  
>> problems on their own network.  I only sent PIE a portion of what I  
>> found or was reported, and sat on the rest of it. Shockingly enough 
>> (no, not really), they only got rid of the stuff I reported.
>
> darren, a few things.
>
> first, glad to hear that you got a bunch of info from folks.
>
> secondly, their MO as i have seen it has been to tidy up the obvious  
> that's been pointed out but it will reappear soon, just in a slightly  
> different location.
>
> thirdly, i am as guilty as many folks in not reporting stuff. i simply 
> get frustrated in building reports, mining for info, sending it off and 
> seeing nothing done about it. i'd rather protect the good guys by arming 
> them with knowledge to detect badness than to ask the bad guys to knock 
> it off. this is not a long term winning strategy, i know.

	Has anyone been working with LE on this?

(private or pgp encrypted responses acceptable).

	- Jared

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