[Outages-discussion] FEMA, W.H. send victims to Internet

[Peter Rossi]

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-Peter
I'm just this guy, you know?

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Peter Rossi <phpete at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sounds like a great way to support/assist first responders, but field
> deployable implies deployed after an incident, wouldn't communities
> ideally be connected pre-disaster?
>
> -Peter
> I'm just this guy, you know?
>
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Hamm, Jack <jhamm at akamai.com> wrote:
>> I'm seconding on ham radios.
>>
>> I don't expect everyone to get a license, but there can be enough critical mass to keep a pretty robust system up during emergencies.  I've been talking with some other hams in the SF Bay area about developing a field deployable, high-speed, network to support emergency services.  We can combine the best of modern technology with good ol'fashioned neighborliness to help each other out during emergencies.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jack Hamm (also a ham, N1REU)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2012, at 5:29 PM, VM wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with your comments.  These days, people assume that everything
>>> went global and forget that their neighbors remain local.  Just
>>> walking outside seems too archaic for most folks these days.
>>>
>>> What about using Citizen Band radios?  CB Radios are still around and
>>> work up to a radius of about 3 - 4 miles.  CB channel 9 was at one
>>> time monitored by local authorities and still may be.  If not, at
>>> least you may find a trucker willing to help.
>>>
>>> On Oct 30, 2012, at 6:47 PM, Peter Rossi wrote:
>>>
>>>> I figured this was the main issue, I just think it's more practical to
>>>> expect the aforementioned Grandma to both live within a mile of
>>>> someone else, and be able to operate a PTT radio.  If we're talking
>>>> about residences over a mile apart, then we're talking about more
>>>> isolated areas than north Jersey, which was mentioned.
>>>>
>>>> I have a problem, and I realize it sounds conspiratorial, but I feel
>>>> people should try to be a bit more self-sufficient (at least at the
>>>> community level) and rely a bit less on the higher and more removed
>>>> levels of government to help them deal with their problems, but that's
>>>> a completely different discussion, I suppose.
>>>>
>>>> Oh well,
>>>>
>>>> -Peter
>>>> I'm just this guy, you know?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Bill Wichers <billw at waveform.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> The usual range on those is less than a mile so they are of limited
>>>>> usefulness in a large scale disaster. The ham stuff mentioned
>>>>> earlier can
>>>>> use repeaters to cover a good-size area (small city) with
>>>>> handhelds. The
>>>>> shortwave stuff can be setup to cover either a region (using NVIS) or
>>>>> internationally. All of that can be done with simple and hastily
>>>>> erected
>>>>> antennas in a pinch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 30, 2012, at 5:16 PM, "Peter Rossi" <phpete at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Peanut Gallery / Lurker here,
>>>>>
>>>>> Why has no one mentioned good old fashioned 2way radios?  I know cell
>>>>> phones have all but replaced them for Joe Average User, but who
>>>>> doesn't have a set sitting up in the attic?  We charged our EM1000Rs
>>>>> before the storm and used them both for weather updates, and for
>>>>> finding other people in our area who needed help by scanning
>>>>> periodically.  The batteries when fully charged can be made to last
>>>>> quite a while by using them sparingly, and they're cheap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe my issue is that I'm of the opinion  that the most important
>>>>> contact is within your local community, and this wouldn't help with
>>>>> "official" contact for everyone, but mesh networks can be powerful,
>>>>> and someone's bound to be connected to an official channel.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just my $0.02.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Peter
>>>>> I'm just this guy, you know?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Byron L. Hicks
>>>>> <byron.hicks at tx-learn.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/30/2012 10:27 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, 'cause so many people have short wave gear that operates when
>>>>>>> power has been out long enough for their smartphone to stop working
>>>>>>> (or at all) these days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, that is the point of ARRL Field Day:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.arrl.org/field-day
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73 de KD5KLL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Byron L. Hicks
>>>>>> Lonestar Education and Research Network
>>>>>> Office: 972-883-4645
>>>>>> Google Voice: 972-746-2549
>>>>>> aim/skype: byronhicks
>>>>>>
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