[Outages-discussion] Charter in Northern MI
B.J. Ash
bjash at kentrecords.com
Tue Mar 21 21:43:23 EDT 2017
From a Charter connection in the eastern U.P.:
--- www.mtu.edu ping statistics ---
39 packets transmitted, 32 packets received, 17.9% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 96.207/104.530/121.833/5.174 ms
Same traceroute, ran twice with dead packets in different spots:
$ traceroute 141.219.70.106
traceroute to 141.219.70.106 (141.219.70.106), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 4.479 ms 1.705 ms 1.432 ms
2 5.629 ms 17.470 ms 14.893 ms
3 15.898 ms 32.822 ms 19.963 ms
4 acr01escnmi-tge-0-1-1-2.escn.mi.charter.com (96.34.16.6) 19.835 ms 13.270 ms 23.396 ms
5 dtr02mrqtmi-bue-96.mrqt.mi.charter.com (96.34.17.72) 28.244 ms 18.673 ms 27.752 ms
6 crr01mrqtmi-bue-100.mrqt.mi.charter.com (96.34.18.50) 22.988 ms 22.516 ms 20.098 ms
7 crr01stptwi-bue-251.stpt.wi.charter.com (96.34.18.180) 34.061 ms 41.392 ms 32.127 ms
8 crr02euclwi-bue-400.eucl.wi.charter.com (96.34.24.83) 29.227 ms 34.993 ms 28.772 ms
9 crr01sgnwmi-tge-0-0-0-4.sgnw.mi.charter.com (96.34.2.155) 38.035 ms 29.845 ms 35.807 ms
10 bbr01chcgil-bue-1.chcg.il.charter.com (96.34.0.9) 66.398 ms 80.199 ms 76.882 ms
11 prr01chcgil-bue-2.chcg.il.charter.com (96.34.3.9) 72.382 ms 71.415 ms 69.481 ms
12 ge-7-2-0.0.rtr.eqch.net.internet2.edu (162.252.69.153) 68.171 ms *
ge-7-2-3.0.rtr.eqch.net.internet2.edu (64.57.20.49) 68.696 ms
13 ae-2.0.rtr.ashb.net.internet2.edu (64.57.20.218) 96.154 ms 96.224 ms 92.888 ms
14 * 64.57.29.178 (64.57.29.178) 101.061 ms 106.493 ms
15 irbx46.hldl-cor-hillcoll.mich.net (198.108.23.155) 107.161 ms 97.177 ms 106.299 ms
16 irbx5.ssmr-cor-lssu.mich.net (198.108.22.58) 103.617 ms 104.269 ms 90.400 ms
17 irbx70.hgtn-cor-mtu.mich.net (198.108.22.78) 125.193 ms 94.911 ms 106.193 ms
18 207.75.40.10 (207.75.40.10) 106.193 ms 104.280 ms 111.868 ms
19 mx480-07-001-rtr-brd-u.tc.mtu.edu (141.219.183.98) 111.149 ms 116.220 ms 97.454 ms
20 www.mtu.edu (141.219.70.106) 111.488 ms 106.589 ms 114.837 ms
$ traceroute 141.219.70.106
traceroute to 141.219.70.106 (141.219.70.106), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 4.514 ms 1.411 ms 1.449 ms
2 5.624 ms 7.045 ms 5.820 ms
3 18.357 ms 18.794 ms 18.443 ms
4 acr01escnmi-tge-0-1-1-2.escn.mi.charter.com (96.34.16.6) 30.101 ms 24.256 ms 18.547 ms
5 dtr02mrqtmi-bue-96.mrqt.mi.charter.com (96.34.17.72) 21.210 ms 19.389 ms 19.477 ms
6 crr01mrqtmi-bue-100.mrqt.mi.charter.com (96.34.18.50) 16.288 ms 25.502 ms 18.368 ms
7 crr01stptwi-bue-251.stpt.wi.charter.com (96.34.18.180) 34.544 ms 31.875 ms 31.007 ms
8 crr02euclwi-bue-400.eucl.wi.charter.com (96.34.24.83) 42.272 ms 34.975 ms 26.887 ms
9 crr01sgnwmi-tge-0-0-0-4.sgnw.mi.charter.com (96.34.2.155) 36.254 ms 34.032 ms 35.427 ms
10 * bbr01chcgil-bue-1.chcg.il.charter.com (96.34.0.9) 78.236 ms 68.679 ms
11 prr01chcgil-bue-2.chcg.il.charter.com (96.34.3.9) 65.834 ms 74.277 ms 71.371 ms
12 ge-7-2-0.0.rtr.eqch.net.internet2.edu (162.252.69.153) 66.110 ms 88.693 ms 66.827 ms
13 ae-2.0.rtr.ashb.net.internet2.edu (64.57.20.218) 121.245 ms 112.377 ms 102.074 ms
14 64.57.29.178 (64.57.29.178) 104.356 ms
198.71.47.26 (198.71.47.26) 203.186 ms 103.496 ms
15 irbx46.hldl-cor-hillcoll.mich.net (198.108.23.155) 101.030 ms 108.354 ms *
16 * irbx5.ssmr-cor-lssu.mich.net (198.108.22.58) 101.149 ms 104.172 ms
17 irbx70.hgtn-cor-mtu.mich.net (198.108.22.78) 100.320 ms 102.926 ms 106.523 ms
18 207.75.40.10 (207.75.40.10) 93.641 ms 101.899 ms 107.091 ms
19 * mx480-07-001-rtr-brd-u.tc.mtu.edu (141.219.183.98) 111.892 ms 118.047 ms
20 www.mtu.edu (141.219.70.106) 97.818 ms 106.838 ms 95.455 ms
From a Qwest T-1 in the eastern U.P.:
Tracing the route to www.mtu.edu (141.219.70.106)
VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id)
1 4 msec 4 msec 16 msec
2 cer-edge-11.inet.qwest.net (63.149.1.21) 32 msec 32 msec 28 msec
3 chp-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net (67.14.8.190) 36 msec 28 msec 32 msec
4 63.146.26.218 44 msec 28 msec 32 msec
5 cr1.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.133.106) 28 msec 32 msec 32 msec
6 12.123.159.33 48 msec 40 msec 72 msec
7 12.124.155.10 28 msec 32 msec 36 msec
8 irbx18.pwrs-cor-powers.mich.net (198.108.22.33) 44 msec 32 msec 32 msec
9 irbx70.hgtn-cor-mtu.mich.net (198.108.22.78) 44 msec 44 msec 60 msec
10 207.75.40.10 60 msec 44 msec 60 msec
11 mx480-07-001-rtr-brd-u.tc.mtu.edu (141.219.183.98) 52 msec 60 msec 60 msec
12 www.mtu.edu (141.219.70.106) 48 msec 44 msec 48 msec
From a separate connection from downstate:
Tracing the route to www.mtu.edu (141.219.70.106)
VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id)
1 0 msec 0 msec 9 msec
2 6-2-40.ear3.chicago2.level3.net (4.35.108.249) 8 msec 8 msec 9 msec
3 * * *
4 192.205.37.149 9 msec 17 msec 17 msec
5 cr1.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.133.162) 17 msec 17 msec 16 msec
6 12.123.159.33 34 msec 67 msec 92 msec
7 12.124.155.10 17 msec 8 msec 9 msec
8 irbx18.pwrs-cor-powers.mich.net (198.108.22.33) 25 msec 17 msec 25 msec
9 irbx70.hgtn-cor-mtu.mich.net (198.108.22.78) 17 msec 25 msec 25 msec
10 207.75.40.10 26 msec 25 msec 17 msec
11 mx480-07-001-rtr-brd-u.tc.mtu.edu (141.219.183.98) 16 msec 25 msec 25 msec
12 www.mtu.edu (141.219.70.106) 17 msec 25 msec 25 msec
And another separate connection downstate (different provider):
Tracing the route to www.mtu.edu (141.219.70.106)
VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id)
1 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
2 8 msec 8 msec 4 msec
3 8 msec 8 msec 4 msec
4 lag-13-744.ear1.chicago2.level3.net (4.30.175.37) 24 msec 20 msec 24 msec
5 * * *
6 192.205.37.149 28 msec * 24 msec
7 cr2.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.132.198) 28 msec 32 msec 24 msec
8 12.123.159.29 24 msec 20 msec 20 msec
9 12.124.155.10 16 msec 24 msec 16 msec
10 irbx18.pwrs-cor-powers.mich.net (198.108.22.33) 24 msec 24 msec 24 msec
11 irbx70.hgtn-cor-mtu.mich.net (198.108.22.78) 24 msec 24 msec 32 msec
12 207.75.40.10 32 msec 32 msec 32 msec
13 mx480-07-001-rtr-brd-u.tc.mtu.edu (141.219.183.98) 32 msec * 24 msec
14 www.mtu.edu (141.219.70.106) 36 msec 32 msec 32 msec
Seems to be a potential Level 3 issue?
--
B.J.
On 3/21/17, 21:24 , "Outages-discussion on behalf of Mitchell Kuch" <outages-discussion-bounces at outages.org on behalf of mdkuch at merit.edu> wrote:
Hello, Matt -
I'm currently on Charter in Northern Lower Michigan and see no such trouble.
- - Mitchell
mitch at paperclip:~$ ping -M dont -s 1472 www.mtu.edu
PING www.mtu.edu (141.219.70.106) 1472(1500) bytes of data.
1480 bytes from www.mtu.edu (141.219.70.106): icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=51.2 ms
1480 bytes from www.mtu.edu (141.219.70.106): icmp_seq=2 ttl=240 time=51.2 ms
1480 bytes from www.mtu.edu (141.219.70.106): icmp_seq=3 ttl=240 time=51.2 ms
...
--- www.mtu.edu ping statistics ---
783 packets transmitted, 782 received, 0% packet loss, time 782842ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 50.760/51.435/66.171/1.501 ms
mitch at paperclip:~$ traceroute --resolve-hostnames -I www.mtu.edu
traceroute to www.mtu.edu (141.219.70.106), 64 hops max
1 * * *
2 * * *
3 96.34.34.3 (dtr04mnclmi-tge-0-0-0-3.mncl.mi.charter.com) 1.708ms 1.230ms 1.572ms
4 96.34.35.92 (crr01trcymi-bue-343.trcy.mi.charter.com) 2.805ms 2.576ms 2.635ms
5 96.34.33.97 (crr02trcymi-bue-10.trcy.mi.charter.com) 2.721ms 2.688ms 2.679ms
6 96.34.36.20 (crr02aldlmi-bue-4.aldl.mi.charter.com) 6.965ms 6.961ms 6.917ms
7 96.34.2.10 (bbr01aldlmi-bue-2.aldl.mi.charter.com) 11.248ms 8.733ms 7.971ms
8 96.34.0.139 (bbr01chcgil-bue-805.chcg.il.charter.com) 19.026ms 15.542ms 15.947ms
9 96.34.3.9 (prr01chcgil-bue-2.chcg.il.charter.com) 11.490ms 11.548ms 11.202ms
10 162.252.69.153 (ge-7-2-0.0.rtr.eqch.net.internet2.edu) 11.359ms 11.476ms 11.329ms
11 64.57.20.218 (ae-2.0.rtr.ashb.net.internet2.edu) 28.148ms 28.166ms 28.512ms
12 198.71.47.26 (198.71.47.26) 56.311ms 56.870ms 57.351ms
13 198.108.23.155 (irbx46.hldl-cor-hillcoll.mich.net) 61.000ms 60.838ms 60.378ms
14 198.108.22.58 (irbx5.ssmr-cor-lssu.mich.net) 46.480ms 46.475ms 46.501ms
15 198.108.22.78 (irbx70.hgtn-cor-mtu.mich.net) 50.096ms 50.098ms 50.098ms
16 207.75.40.10 (207.75.40.10) 57.336ms 57.327ms 57.445ms
17 141.219.183.98 (mx480-07-001-rtr-brd-u.tc.mtu.edu) 50.877ms 50.578ms 50.579ms
18 141.219.70.106 (www.mtu.edu) 50.517ms 50.467ms 50.344ms
mdkuch at hldl-cor-hillcoll> traceroute 96.34.34.2 source 198.108.23.155
traceroute to 96.34.34.2 (96.34.34.2) from 198.108.23.155, 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 ae1x46.sfld-cor-123net.mich.net (198.108.23.156) 3.219 ms 3.753 ms 3.233 ms
2 irbx22.wsu5.mich.net (198.108.23.51) 13.552 ms 3.518 ms 3.541 ms
3 ae1x76.eq-chi2.mich.net (198.108.23.12) 11.959 ms 11.941 ms ae0x14.eq-chi2.mich.net (198.108.22.9) 10.771 ms
4 10gigabitethernet4-1.core1.chi1.he.NET (206.223.119.37) 10.873 ms 10.855 ms 18.110 ms
5 charter-net-hky-nc-as20115.100gigabitethernet6-2.core2.chi1.he.net (184.105.250.38) 12.338 ms 12.019 ms 12.196 ms
6 bbr01chcgil-bue-801.chcg.il.charter.com (96.34.3.8) 15.825 ms 19.691 ms 15.885 ms
7 bbr01ftwotx-tge-0-3-0-2.ftwo.tx.charter.com (96.34.0.138) 27.724 ms 26.975 ms 32.001 ms
8 crr02aldlmi-bue-808.aldl.mi.charter.com (96.34.2.11) 16.786 ms 18.312 ms 17.904 ms
9 crr02trcymi-bue-4.trcy.mi.charter.com (96.34.36.21) 21.019 ms 26.582 ms 22.212 ms
10 crr01trcymi-bue-10.trcy.mi.charter.com (96.34.33.96) 28.034 ms 29.139 ms 29.267 ms
11 dtr04mnclmi-bue-343.mncl.mi.charter.com (96.34.35.93) 22.552 ms 23.459 ms 23.183 ms
12 acr02mnclmi-tge-0-0-0-0.mncl.mi.charter.com (96.34.34.2) 23.463 ms 24.326 ms 23.967 ms
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Freitag" <mlfreita at mtu.edu>
To: outages-discussion at outages.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:51:07 PM
Subject: [Outages-discussion] Charter in Northern MI
Hey everyone!
I'm on Charter in the upper peninsula of Michigan and see a lot of packet loss to a lot of places, like Gmail or Michigan Tech University.
Wondering if anyone else in the UP/Wisconsin sees something similar or knows anything.
Thank you!
Matt Freitag
Network Engineer I
Information Technology
Michigan Technological University
(906) 487-3696
https://www.mtu.edu/
https://www.mtu.edu/it
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