[Outages-discussion] [outages] Verizon Wireless

[Warren Kumari]

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 1:29 PM Matt Hoppes <
mattlists at rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> “Verizon has not said what causes the outage”.
>
> That’s disconcerting considering all the redundancy that should be built
> into things.


Perhaps, but there is a reasonable chance that the redundancy contributed
to the issues. Charles Perrows “Normal Accidents” (
https://www.amazon.com/Normal-Accidents-Living-High-Risk-Technologies/dp/0691004129
)
is a great read on how complex systems fail.

W


>
> > On Mar 3, 2018, at 11:06, <frnkblk at iname.com> <frnkblk at iname.com> wrote:
> >
> > More here:
> > http://wnep.com/2018/03/02/widespread-verizon-wireless-service-outage/
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Outages <outages-bounces at outages.org> On Behalf Of Biddle, Josh
> via
> > Outages
> > Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 5:23 PM
> > To: outages at outages.org
> > Subject: Re: [outages] Verizon Wireless
> >
> > I have at least 10 locations down in Virginia across Comcast, Cox, and
> > Verizon due to the storms.  Lots of east coast outages happening.  It is
> > supposed to last into the weekend.
> >
> > http://www.downdetector.com/status/comcast-xfinity/map/
> > http://www.downdetector.com/status/cox-communications/map
> > http://www.downdetector.com/status/verizon/map
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Outages [mailto:outages-bounces at outages.org] On Behalf Of Braden
> > McGrath via Outages
> > Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 6:14 PM
> > To: outages at outages.org
> > Subject: Re: [outages] Verizon Wireless
> >
> > I have a few buildings in PA that are on Comcast services (combo of
> private
> > and public) that were entirely down, and have just partially recovered in
> > the past 10-15 min. This big ice/snow weather mess has been taking out
> stuff
> > all over the place, both power and lines.
> >
> > I'd be kind of surprised if VZW is 100% Comcast for backhaul there
> though,
> > given that at least parts of PA have Verizon (wired) as the LEC (I would
> > think that VZW would try to ride VZ's own fiber whenever possible).
> >
> > If only the US had a more diverse selection of connectivity providers
> across
> > all areas of the country... :(
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Braden McGrath
> > Sr. IT Systems Engineer
> > Saber Healthcare Group
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Outages [mailto:outages-bounces at outages.org] On Behalf Of Matt
> Hoppes
> > via Outages
> > Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 5:51 PM
> > To: outages at outages.org
> > Subject: [outages] Verizon Wireless
> >
> > Verizon Wireless appears to be completely down in Pennsylvania.
> >
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-- 
I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in
the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of
pants.
   ---maf
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