[Outages-discussion] [outages] Comcast Issues Central & East

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Amen!

> On Aug 1, 2019, at 2:29 PM, Jeremy Chadwick <jdc at koitsu.org> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Aug 01, 2019 at 01:02:37PM -0500, Eric Spaeth wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 2:11 PM Scott Weeks <surfer at mauigateway.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>> and uses RIPv2 to announce its LAN-side IPv4 block
>>> ----------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> They use what!?!?!  :)
>>> 
>>> 
>> The right protocol for the job.
> 
> I suspect the "they use what?!?!" comment is driven by the age-old
> mentality of "RIPv1/v2?  OMG who uses that, nobody uses that, it's old,
> limited hop count, it uses multicast, it's terrible, it should be
> replaced then taken out back and shot!"
> 
> This overall belief is a very broken one, yet continues to rise/bloat in
> the day and age where everyone wants "new shiny" and thinks "newer is
> better".  I've seen similar reactions to all sorts of late
> ARPA/DARPA-era protocols, even ones as "basic" (except not really) as
> telnet.  Rarely is good/solid technical justification given for this,
> instead it seems to be driven by dislike for having to read RFCs and
> disapproval towards all things "old".
> 
> More rarely is consideration given to the fact that something is used
> because it is technically better/more relevant to the situation (such as
> here), or because it's substantially more well-understood (this latter
> point is often overlooked.  Example: syslog has some shortcomings (see:
> RELP wrapper), but it is a well-understood protocol and is a lot easier
> to troubleshoot comparatively to things like, say, logstash).  I am not
> implying alternate or newer routing protocols are not well-understood, I
> am speaking about the mindset.
> 
> Picking the right tool (protocol) for the job is the proper approach, no
> matter how "old" it may be.  I wish more people asked "why was {thing}
> chosen and when?" first.  The why, as demonstrated here, is important.
> Because newer is not always better.
> 
> </soapbox>
> 
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> | Jeremy Chadwick                                 jdc at koitsu.org |
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