[Outages-discussion] [outages] [Preemptive Strike] Ukraine requests Internet Death Penalty for Russia

[Joseph Jackson]

I have to agree with Patrick on this one.  The idea of cutting office network access wholesale is to me a really poorly thought out idea.



From: Outages-discussion [mailto:outages-discussion-bounces at outages.org] On Behalf Of Patrick W. Gilmore
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2022 12:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] [Preemptive Strike] Ukraine requests Internet Death Penalty for Russia

Most attacks launched by the Russian government will not come from Russian IP addresses.

Cutting off communication is a bad idea. It will hurt the people we want to help. And the people we want to hurt will not care. Just the opposite, they will turn it into propaganda: Those westerners do not want you to have access to the Internet! See how evil they are and how good we are?!?

Increase connectivity, do not decrease it.

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TTFN,
patrick


On Mar 2, 2022, at 1:45 PM, Jason Watts <jwatts at pratt.edu<mailto:jwatts at pratt.edu>> wrote:

It's certainly a double-edged sword.

Retaining connectivity allows citizens capable and willing to access external information sources. It also allows outbound attacks from the aggressor state towards any/all targets.
The other side of that coin is that it allows attacks and reconnaissance to occur from outside as well as useful or critical information or communications a path out to the world.
Perhaps the "nuclear" option should be retained for attacks or activity puting the world at critical risk. The problem then is which and how many states would be required to enact this option?
How could you prevent misapplication and how could you actually police it when command and control could be air-gapped and the dangerous activity actually sourced from another(nearly any) locale.

--j


On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 1:27 PM Paul M - outages <paul+outages at mansfield.co.uk<mailto:paul%2Boutages at mansfield.co.uk>> wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 18:19, Norman Hirsch <nhirsch at nha.com<mailto:nhirsch at nha.com>> wrote:
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> Seems there might be some Russian government IPs or subnets that would be good to somehow disable.

but then how would Anonymous hack in to read all their emails ;-)
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