[Outages-discussion] [outages] Evocative EWR1 (formerly INAP NYJ004)

[Chad Austin]

It looks like in New Jersey they can fine each person $5000 for each 
violation involved in starting the generators, and arrest and jail them 
until the fine is paid (or at most 6 months if they can't pay), and the 
fire marshal is allowed to try to stop you and resisting them from 
stopping you is another crime.
you have to follow a few links to find the penalty:
https://casetext.com/regulation/new-jersey-administrative-code/title-5-community-affairs/chapter-70-uniform-fire-code/subchapter-2-administration-and-enforcement/section-570-217-evacuation-of-unsafe-premises
https://casetext.com/regulation/new-jersey-administrative-code/title-5-community-affairs/chapter-70-uniform-fire-code/subchapter-2-administration-and-enforcement/section-570-210-enforcement-procedures
https://casetext.com/regulation/new-jersey-administrative-code/title-5-community-affairs/chapter-70-uniform-fire-code/subchapter-2-administration-and-enforcement/section-570-212-penalties

Of course the generators would likely be turned off again with some of 
the fun tools the fire department carries on their truck.... and then 
they could take their time deciding if you can ever open the building 
back up.

-Chad




On 7/11/2023 9:08 PM, Jay R. Ashworth via Outages-discussion wrote:
> Yeah, that was my guess as well:
>
> "If you turn switches on before we tell you to, people will start getting arrested."
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Matthew Petach via Outages-discussion" <outages-discussion at outages.org>
>> To: "Charles Sprickman" <spork at bway.net>
>> Cc: "Christopher J. Pilkington" <cjp at 0x1.net>, "outages-discussion" <outages-discussion at outages.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 8:24:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] Evocative EWR1 (formerly INAP NYJ004)
>> Many, many years ago when I was in a similar position, the fire marshal told me
>> in no uncertain terms that if I fired up our genset before he gave the
>> all-clear, he had the authority revoke our occupancy permit for the building.
>> As fire marshals are often sworn members of law enforcement, authorized to
>> carry a weapon and enforce the law, I felt it would be prudent to follow their
>> directives and leave the building dark until they gave the all-clear.
>>
>> I don't think the folks there want to jeopardize their business by jumping the
>> gun and disobeying the fire marshal. ^_^;
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 5:09 PM Charles Sprickman via Outages-discussion <
>> outages-discussion at outages.org > wrote:
>>
>>
>> This is New Jersey, sounds like some palms have not been properly greased. :)
>>
>> "Nice datacenter you got here, shame if it didn't have some electricity..."
>>
>> Curious what would happen if they just opted to power from the gensets.
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>> On Jul 11, 2023, at 7:57 PM, Christopher J. Pilkington via Outages <
>>> outages at outages.org > wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2023, at 08:52, Alex via Outages wrote:
>>>> Looks like EWR1 will be down at least until the afternoon.
>>> Latest update, 9am meet with fire marshal. Best case, customer loads energized
>>> 4-5 hours after.
>>>
>>> -cjp
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