[Outages-discussion] [EXTERNAL] Re: It wasn't just AT&T; every carrier was impacted. Why?

[Daniel Marks]

We have cellular uplinks scattered around the lower 48 and the only issues we’ve seen are on AT&T. 

> On Feb 22, 2024, at 12:02, Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via Outages-discussion <outages-discussion at outages.org> wrote:
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> I'm sorry, Andy.  I must have emailed the outages-condescension listserv in error.  My apologies.
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> Does anyone else have an insight about why the outage affected every one?  Was AT&T's infrastructure really the source of the disruption as Andy says?  If so, does this highlight a potential problem of a private company having too much control over a critical piece of public infrastructure?
> 
> ...or did the equipment upgrade at the 33 Thomas Street NSA listening outpost not go as planned?  :-D 
> 
> —Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 22, 2024, at 8:53 AM, Andy Ringsmuth via Outages-discussion <outages-discussion at outages.org> wrote:
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>>> On Feb 22, 2024, at 10:41 AM, Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via Outages-discussion <outages-discussion at outages.org> wrote:
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>>> Take a look at this scrolling screenshot the reports from Downdetector: every major carrier had some issue, with reports spiking around the same time.  
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>>> Link: "https://www.google.com/url?q=https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://imgur.com/gallery/O3sm3qy__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!rv688OpWswUnLFdugjEzHYHhrlS2Omb0viPzs_V1eR15-dTlj2DMBGFbdnd9ZCzHvQWXZ5eTLtMUv_BAOi6YvfTmRfRxltw$&source=gmail-imap&ust=1709226217000000&usg=AOvVaw1CS-HV5J9PiQrfEsxms7HR "
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>>> Someone commented on this post already about a "SIM Card database issue."
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>>> Is that a credible explanation?  If so, how and why?
>>> 
>>> -Brad
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>> DownDetector is mostly garbage. It consists of 100% user-submitted reports.
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>> But the tech illiterate media has no clue, so they take it as gospel and run with it.
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>> If you are a T-Mobile customer and calling your girlfriend or boss or whomever and they are an AT&T customer, and it doesn’t go through, who do you blame? T-Mobile of course. Even though they were not at fault.
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>> Also, how many of those MVNOs actually use AT&T’s infrastructure? Quite a few.
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>> That’s what is going on with the other reports on DownDetector.
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>> Again, repeat after me: DownDetector is not an official source. DownDetector is not an official source. DownDetector is not an official source.
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>> -Andy
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