<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I remember the old days when all the major carriers had some “unofficial” presence on NANOG and the like, but it seems like those days are done and the netheads lost to the bellheads at VZ and we’ve got interns running the network or something.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Look at this nonsense:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32752589-What-is-this-192-168-0-1-IP-Can-anyone-in-NY-with-FiOS-ping-it" class="">https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r32752589-What-is-this-192-168-0-1-IP-Can-anyone-in-NY-with-FiOS-ping-it</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">How does the entity that used to be Alternet leak private IPs into their production network not once but twice and each time take weeks/months to fix it?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Charles<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 18, 2020, at 10:24 AM, David Rubin <<a href="mailto:drubin@cubexgroup.com" class="">drubin@cubexgroup.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">I'm still having users reporting issues today - do we know if this is ongoing / if Verizon is aware of what's going on? I'm guessing they aren't - because why would they be?</div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 6:40 PM Cary Wiedemann via Outages <<a href="mailto:outages@outages.org" class="">outages@outages.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">I've definitely seen loss from FiOS circuits in Manhattan and Long Island to many routes (examples: AT&T and Cox, but not Google's local 8.8.8.8 resolver) starting around 8:45pm EDT last night.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Some graphs:</div><div class="">24-hour Long Island FiOS to Cox:</div><div class=""><div class=""><span id="cid:ii_kbjx1c9c0"><image.png></span><br class=""></div><div class="">2-hour Long Island FiOS to Cox:</div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><span id="cid:ii_kbjx51ee3"><image.png></span><br class=""></div></div><div class="">2-hour Manhattan to FiOS to AT&T:</div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><span id="cid:ii_kbjx5tom4"><image.png></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And of course New York is one of the IPv6 FiOS regions that broke traditional traceroute, so it's tougher than normal to nail down which router is the culprit. I have some UDP MTRs running now which should hopefully answer that question.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I've seen several days of high latency and intermittent loss to many Verizon peers via their old <a href="http://alter.net/" target="_blank" class="">ALTER.NET</a> routers in the DC region too, which may or may not be related.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">No, it's not just you. But it's not the last-mile FiOS either. Looks like Verizon backbone routing woes.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- Cary<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><br class=""></div></div></div> </div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 5:13 PM Izzy Goldstein - TeleGo via Outages <<a href="mailto:outages@outages.org" target="_blank" class="">outages@outages.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;">getting complaints from customers using FiOS of packet loss to our data center</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;">but getting word there is an issue in NYC area with other data centers too?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div>-- <br class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><div style="line-height: 1.38; 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