<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">It’s clear from the second paragraph of I.9 that this convention is written<div class="">to apply to “powers” (i.e. governments) and that each government is expected</div><div class="">to enforce compliance by companies operating under its “flag” for lack of a</div><div class="">better term.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As such, it seems, at least in theory that Cogent would be expected to be</div><div class="">of the same posture (neutrality or not) as the U.S. overall. I think it would</div><div class="">be hard to claim that the U.S. is either entirely neutral or entirely in support</div><div class="">of Ukraine under current conditions, so I guess that leaves Cogent free to</div><div class="">choose anywhere on that spectrum they wish as well.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Personally, I’m of mixed opinion. I support doing whatever we can to hurt</div><div class="">Putin and the leadership of Russia that has created this situation, but I am</div><div class="">not convinced that cutting off access to outside information for millions of</div><div class="">Russian citizens is not counterproductive to that end.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 4, 2022, at 11:36 , Matthew Petach <<a href="mailto:matt@petach.org" class="">matt@petach.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">If they're going to follow the War Conventions in the Hauge, they should likewise terminate all customer connections to Ukraine as well, if they're considering themselves to be a neutral party. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Of course, that doesn't apply if they're taking a side as a participant in the conflict.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Shamelessly copying from Sean Donelan...</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br style="" class=""><a href="https://www.icrc.org/en" style="text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(66,133,244);font-size:12.8px" class="">https://www.icrc.org/en</a><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">Convention (V) respecting the Rights and Duties of Neutral Powers and</span><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">Persons in Case of War on Land. The Hague, 18 October 1907.</span><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">CHAPTER I : THE RIGHTS AND DUTIES OF NEUTRAL POWERS - ART. 8.</span><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">Art. 8. A neutral Power is not called upon to forbid or restrict the use</span><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">on behalf of the belligerents of telegraph or telephone cables or of</span><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">wireless telegraphy apparatus belonging to it or to companies or private</span><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">individuals.</span><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">CHAPTER I : THE RIGHTS AND DUTIES OF NEUTRAL POWERS - ART. 9.</span><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">Art. 9. Every measure of restriction or prohibition taken by a neutral</span><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">Power in regard to the matters referred to in Articles 7 and 8</span><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">must be impartially applied by it to both belligerents.</span><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">A neutral Power must see to the same obligation being observed by</span><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">companies or private individuals owning telegraph or telephone cables or</span><br style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">wireless telegraphy apparatus.</span><br class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, 11:20 Andy Ringsmuth <<a href="mailto:andy@andyring.com" class="">andy@andyring.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Apparently effective at noon EDT, which would be a couple hours ago.<br class="">
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Washington Post, but here’s a paywall-free archive:<br class="">
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