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<p class="MsoNormal">I think this is the wrong step. The Internet is what is allowing me, personally, to differentiate between CNN and RT – I have friends on Facebook and also in Ukraine and I can reach them. If we cut off Russia we prevent their citizens (and
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<p class="MsoNormal">Also, creepy how fast one can lose IP space they don’t “own” themselves.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Outages-discussion <outages-discussion-bounces@outages.org> on behalf of Jeff Shultz <jeffshultz@sctcweb.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, March 4, 2022 at 11:59 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Matthew Petach <matt@petach.org><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Outages Discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Outages-discussion] Cogent disconnecting Russia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Based on the wording used:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#2A2A2A">“In light of the unwarranted and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, Cogent is terminating all of your services effective at 5 p.m. GMT on March 4, 2022. The economic
sanctions put in place as a result of the invasion and the increasingly uncertain security situation make it impossible for Cogent to continue to provide you with service. All Cogent-provided ports and IP address space will be reclaimed as of the termination
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#2A2A2A">They don't sound very neutral. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 11:45 AM Matthew Petach <<a href="mailto:matt@petach.org">matt@petach.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If they're going to follow the War Conventions in the Hauge, they should likewise terminate all customer connections to Ukraine as well, if they're considering themselves to be a neutral party. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Of course, that doesn't apply if they're taking a side as a participant in the conflict.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Shamelessly copying from Sean Donelan...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="https://www.icrc.org/en" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;color:#4285F4">https://www.icrc.org/en</span></a><span style="font-size:9.5pt"><br>
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Convention (V) respecting the Rights and Duties of Neutral Powers and<br>
Persons in Case of War on Land. The Hague, 18 October 1907.<br>
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CHAPTER I : THE RIGHTS AND DUTIES OF NEUTRAL POWERS - ART. 8.<br>
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Art. 8. A neutral Power is not called upon to forbid or restrict the use<br>
on behalf of the belligerents of telegraph or telephone cables or of<br>
wireless telegraphy apparatus belonging to it or to companies or private<br>
individuals.<br>
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CHAPTER I : THE RIGHTS AND DUTIES OF NEUTRAL POWERS - ART. 9.<br>
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Art. 9. Every measure of restriction or prohibition taken by a neutral<br>
Power in regard to the matters referred to in Articles 7 and 8<br>
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companies or private individuals owning telegraph or telephone cables or<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, 11:20 Andy Ringsmuth <<a href="mailto:andy@andyring.com" target="_blank">andy@andyring.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Washington Post, but here’s a paywall-free archive:<br>
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<a href="https://archive.ph/TFgyg" target="_blank">https://archive.ph/TFgyg</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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