<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">That seems like a dumb idea. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Go make a better company if you don’t like it. Or hell, buy it, like Elon did.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-Mike</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 25, 2022, at 16:30, Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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This is one of a number of behaviors that has come to be referred to colloquially — in the NANOG community, among others — as the Internet Death Penalty... a phrase you might productively Google. ;-)<br>-- jra<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On April 25, 2022 6:15:11 PM EDT, "Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal)" <Brad.Chapman@nbcuni.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Outages-Discussion,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As a hypothetical exercise, what would it take—technically, legally, or otherwise—to disconnect a single autonomous system from the rest of the world for "disruptive activity" originating from that entity, and is such disconnection allowed
under certain cases, like cyberattacks, terrorism, or threats of the same?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">And what could said entity do—technically, legally, or otherwise—to stop the withdrawal of routes connecting to it?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Do existing telecommunications laws in Western Europe and the US generally
<u>require</u> the free and open connection of autonomous systems regardless of what is transmitted across them? The FCC Net Neutrality rules are the closest legal framework I could find.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The example I had in mind for today is <a href="https://bgp.he.net/AS13414">
AS13414</a>.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Would love to hear everyone's thoughts on this and if it's ever been done before.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Brad<o:p></o:p></p>
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</blockquote></div><div style="white-space: pre-wrap"><div class="k9mail-signature">-- <br>Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.</div></div>
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