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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap:break-word">Which is just further evidence that if you are going to voice over net, all the diversity stuff becomes your problem. Good luck trying to get route diversity out of different internet delivery carriers. The last time I looked at this it wasn't even possible to tell if both of them were renting the same underlying transport somewhere in the middle because they considered their routing information proprietary. T<br><br>hink about that the next time you're trying to hook up a phone service.<br><br>Everybody that thinks moving the entire us telephony backbone off of PCM to IP may need to think again. Sadly, we may have destroyed it all by then.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On December 8, 2022 3:04:07 PM EST, Frank Bulk via Outages-discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">News article here: <a href="http://www.riograndesun.com/news/widespread-internet-outage-leaves-county-government-agencies-without-phone-service-email-use/article_80ec6238-7683-11ed-b757-67c8bdc885f5.html">http://www.riograndesun.com/news/widespread-internet-outage-leaves-county-government-agencies-without-phone-service-email-use/article_80ec6238-7683-11ed-b757-67c8bdc885f5.html</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">Frank <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Hammett via Outages<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 1, 2022 2:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> Mike Hammett <outages@ics-il.net><br><b>Cc:</b> outages@outages.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [outages] Cogent - ABQ<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">As of 13:02 local, Cogent's team reported they are still waiting permission to access the site itself.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Seems like quite a long time for a major carrier to be unable to physically access their equipment at a not insignificant location.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black"><br><br>-----<br>Mike Hammett<br></span><a 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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">"Mike Hammett via Outages" <</span><a href="mailto:outages@outages.org"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">outages@outages.org</span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">><br><b>To: </b></span><a href="mailto:outages@outages.org"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">outages@outages.org</span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, December 1, 2022 7:40:47 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>[outages] Cogent - ABQ<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I've heard that Cogent is down in Albuquerque and doesn't even have access to their equipment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I've seen a lawsuit that ended poorly for a local third-party.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The two might be related.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black"><br><br>-----<br>Mike Hammett<br></span><a href="https://link.edgepilot.com/s/108ace87/rmr3TtKdYEOv-ov_qYK_0g?u=http://www.ics-il.com/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Intelligent Computing Solutions</span></a><span 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