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Is this the same thing as the "Bigly Presidential" alerts created by the previous administration, or something new ?<br>
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I believe </span><span style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; ; float: none; display: inline !important;" dir="auto">this
specific type of alert cannot be disabled in the U.S. This is the “dear taxpayer</span><span style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; ; float: none; display: inline !important;">, </span><span style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; ; float: none; display: inline !important;">nuclear
war has just broken out and you’re</span><span style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; ; float: none; display: inline !important;" dir="auto"> gonna
die horribly<caret></caret></span><span style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; ; float: none; display: inline !important;"> </span><span style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; ; float: none; display: inline !important;">but
we wanted you to have some </span><span style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; ; float: none; display: inline !important;">time
to have regrets” alert. </span><caret style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; unicode-bidi: plaintext; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none;"></caret><span style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; ; float: none; display: inline !important;"> </span><br>
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On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 15:36, Carlos Alvarez via Outages <<a class="" href="mailto:On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 15:36, Carlos Alvarez via Outages <<a href=">outages@outages.org</a>> wrote:
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<div name="messageReplySection">On Oct 4, 2023 at 1:34 PM -0700, Brandon Svec via Outages <outages@outages.org>, wrote:<br>
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If not aware, it is possible to disable test alerts on iPhone like today’s specifically. <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://support.apple.com/en-us/102516__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!p3fhj7rKP2I8BGRkhW9wy5PJq65W6s76qMuM42UFQSxV3DKbw7hn7crt1SOESnYClG4s2_x02X13ZvhTfqA$">https://support.apple.com/en-us/102516</a>
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<div>I noticed mine was off the other day and turned it on in anticipation of today’s test. </div>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Oct 4, 2023, at 12:27 PM, Jay R. Ashworth via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><span>I have a report from a usually reliable source that he did not receive today's</span><br>
<span>IPAWS/CMAS/WEA test message, and he surmises this might be because his phone</span><br>
<span>handset is forced to VoWIFI. I have a number of other reports, mostly though</span><br>
<span>not all, from the broadcast engineering community; nobody reported expecting</span><br>
<span>a CMAS and not getting it, so that's not data here.</span><br>
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<span>Is anyone on the list involved with the FEMA/IPAWS/CMAS link, or knows someone</span><br>
<span>who is, and has a channel to clear this query up through?</span><br>
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<span>I could be unsurprised to find that the carrier VoWIFI proxies missed out on</span><br>
<span>proxying SMS Cell Broadcast, which I gather provides the underlying PHY for</span><br>
<span>CMAS.</span><br>
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<span>Cheers,</span><br>
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