<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><blockquote type="cite"> "Bigly Presidential" </blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div>Let's keep politics off this list, thanks<div><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 4, 2023, at 4:51 PM, Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via Outages-discussion <outages-discussion@outages.org> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Is this the same thing as the "Bigly Presidential" alerts created by the previous administration, or something new ?</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">—Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 4, 2023, at 4:36 PM, Ryan McGinnis via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto"><span style="font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">Also, I believe </span><span dir="auto" style="font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">this specific type of alert cannot be disabled in the U.S. This is the “dear taxpayer</span><span style="font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">, </span><span style="font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">nuclear war has just broken out and you’re</span><span dir="auto" style="font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"> gonna die horribly<caret></caret></span><span style="font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"> </span><span style="font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">but we wanted you to have some </span><span style="font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">time to have regrets” alert. </span><caret style="font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; unicode-bidi: plaintext;"></caret><span style="font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"> </span><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Ryan McGinnis<br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block" id="protonmail_signature_block"><div dir="auto"><div><a href="mailto:ryan@digicana.com">ryan@digicana.com</a><br></div><div><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://bigstormpicture.com__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!p3fhj7rKP2I8BGRkhW9wy5PJq65W6s76qMuM42UFQSxV3DKbw7hn7crt1SOESnYClG4s2_x02X13j1HQB30$">https://bigstormpicture.com</a><br></div><div>GPG: 5C73 8727 EE58 786A 777C 4F1D B5AA 3FA3 486E D7AD<br></div></div></div><div class="signature_br" contenteditable="false"><br></div><div class="signature_br" contenteditable="false"><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 15:36, Carlos Alvarez via Outages <<a href="mailto:On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 15:36, Carlos Alvarez via Outages <<a href=">outages@outages.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote"><div name="messageBodySection"><div dir="auto">Yesterday I verified that I had everything disabled, and still got the test. </div></div><div name="messageSignatureSection"><br><br>—<br>Carlos Alvarez<br>602-368-6403<br></div><div name="messageReplySection">On Oct 4, 2023 at 1:34 PM -0700, Brandon Svec via Outages <outages@outages.org>, wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite" style="border-left-color: grey; border-left-width: thin; border-left-style: solid; margin: 5px; padding-left: 10px;">If not aware, it is possible to disable test alerts on iPhone like today’s specifically. <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://support.apple.com/en-us/102516__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!p3fhj7rKP2I8BGRkhW9wy5PJq65W6s76qMuM42UFQSxV3DKbw7hn7crt1SOESnYClG4s2_x02X13ZvhTfqA$">https://support.apple.com/en-us/102516</a><div><br></div><div>I noticed mine was off the other day and turned it on in anticipation of today’s test. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 4, 2023, at 12:27 PM, Jay R. Ashworth via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>I have a report from a usually reliable source that he did not receive today's</span><br><span>IPAWS/CMAS/WEA test message, and he surmises this might be because his phone</span><br><span>handset is forced to VoWIFI. I have a number of other reports, mostly though</span><br><span>not all, from the broadcast engineering community; nobody reported expecting</span><br><span>a CMAS and not getting it, so that's not data here.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Is anyone on the list involved with the FEMA/IPAWS/CMAS link, or knows someone</span><br><span>who is, and has a channel to clear this query up through?</span><br><span></span><br><span>I could be unsurprised to find that the carrier VoWIFI proxies missed out on</span><br><span>proxying SMS Cell Broadcast, which I gather provides the underlying PHY for</span><br><span>CMAS.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Cheers,</span><br><span>-- jra</span><br><span></span><br><span>--</span><br><span>Jay R. 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