<div dir="ltr">idk why but this is just a really dumb thing to complain about</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 9:56 PM Jay R. Ashworth via Outages-discussion <<a href="mailto:outages-discussion@outages.org">outages-discussion@outages.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">It's been a busy four months here; I didn't see that they did anything <br>
on-platform, until they actually launched it. Thanks for the links.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
-- jra<br>
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> From: "Jeffrey Ollie" <<a href="mailto:jeff@ocjtech.us" target="_blank">jeff@ocjtech.us</a>><br>
> To: "jra" <<a href="mailto:jra@baylink.com" target="_blank">jra@baylink.com</a>><br>
> Cc: "Outages Discussion" <<a href="mailto:outages-discussion@outages.org" target="_blank">outages-discussion@outages.org</a>><br>
> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2024 8:48:54 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] Facebook Messenger rolls out end-to-end encryption, with no warning<br>
<br>
> Well, no notice other than the press release that they sent out four months<br>
> ago?<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://about.fb.com/news/2023/12/default-end-to-end-encryption-on-messenger/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://about.fb.com/news/2023/12/default-end-to-end-encryption-on-messenger/</a><br>
> <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/6/23991501/facebook-messenger-default-end-to-end-encryption-meta" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/6/23991501/facebook-messenger-default-end-to-end-encryption-meta</a><br>
> <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/12/meta-announces-end-end-encryption-default-messenger" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/12/meta-announces-end-end-encryption-default-messenger</a><br>
> <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67646047" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-67646047</a><br>
> <br>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 10:55 AM Jay R. Ashworth via Outages-discussion <<br>
> <a href="mailto:outages-discussion@outages.org" target="_blank">outages-discussion@outages.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>> ADVISORY: Without warning, as usual, Facebook is doing another of its<br>
>> passive-aggressive "we're going to make things better for you, TAKE THAT!"<br>
>> moves.<br>
>><br>
>> This one entails Messenger, and the fact that they're switching it to<br>
>> end-to-end encryption, so now you can talk about your affairs without<br>
>> your spouse who works for Facebook being able to read it.<br>
>><br>
>> If you use the mobile Messenger client *and* the web-based one, you'll<br>
>> have to set (and not forget) a 6-digit pin, so that each client can<br>
>> decrypt<br>
>> your chat-message history. There are two other choices, and one of those<br>
>> might be better for you if you *don't* use multiple devices...<br>
>><br>
>> I would say give this one some thought before choosing, but that's where<br>
>> the passive-aggressive part comes in: you can't. I didn't hear any<br>
>> warnings<br>
>> in my channels that this was coming. And certainly none *from Facebook<br>
>> itself*.<br>
>><br>
>> As usual, this is on-topic, at least for -discuss, because people who run<br>
>> eyeball networks may get queries on this from customers, and FB is Rilly<br>
>> Big.<br>
>><br>
>> Be careful out there, people...<br>
>><br>
>> Next on the docket: TikTok and it's (arguably) CCP-controlled ownership.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> -- jra<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Jay R. Ashworth Baylink<br>
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> Jeff Ollie<br>
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