<div dir="auto">Many counties or cities will have an Office of Emergency Management or similar. For those outside the “business” of emergency response that could be a good place to start. They’ll generally have public facing phone and/or email to reach out to.<br clear="all"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">--<br>"Genius might be described as a supreme capacity for getting its possessors<br>into trouble of all kinds."<br>-- Samuel Butler<br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 21:29 Michael B. Williams via Outages-discussion <<a href="mailto:outages-discussion@outages.org">outages-discussion@outages.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">I can’t find my local PSAP numbers via Google so how do I get them Jay to call?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Any advice is helpful as I don’t want to call 911 in the future to verify. Is there a database somewhere?<br clear="all"><br clear="all"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Sent from Gmail Mobile</div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 13:26 Jay R. Ashworth <<a href="mailto:jra@baylink.com" target="_blank">jra@baylink.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">You've again missed it, Mel:<br>
<br>
I have the number, and I did not get it in any of the ways you suggest<br>
I should be able to.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
-- jra<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: "Mel Beckman" <<a href="mailto:mel@beckman.org" target="_blank">mel@beckman.org</a>><br>
> To: "jra" <<a href="mailto:jra@baylink.com" target="_blank">jra@baylink.com</a>><br>
> Cc: "Michael B. Williams" <<a href="mailto:michael.williams@glexia.com" target="_blank">michael.williams@glexia.com</a>>, "Outages Discussion" <<a href="mailto:outages-discussion@outages.org" target="_blank">outages-discussion@outages.org</a>><br>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 11:09:06 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] 911 outage - MA statewide<br>
<br>
> Jay,<br>
> <br>
> But _I_ got the phone number, whereas you did not.<br>
> <br>
> How do ya like them apples? 😉<br>
> <br>
> -mel<br>
> ________________________________<br>
> From: Jay R. Ashworth <<a href="mailto:jra@baylink.com" target="_blank">jra@baylink.com</a>><br>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 7:30 PM<br>
> To: Mel Beckman <<a href="mailto:mel@beckman.org" target="_blank">mel@beckman.org</a>><br>
> Cc: Michael B. Williams <<a href="mailto:michael.williams@glexia.com" target="_blank">michael.williams@glexia.com</a>>; Outages Discussion<br>
> <<a href="mailto:outages-discussion@outages.org" target="_blank">outages-discussion@outages.org</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] 911 outage - MA statewide<br>
> <br>
> Oh, come ON, Mel.<br>
> <br>
> You just quoted EXACTLY WHAT I ALREADY QUOTED, and did not answer the<br>
> question it, and I raised: HOW DO YOU ACQUIRE THAT non-emergency PSAP<br>
> number, which they go out of their way NOT TO GIVE OUT?<br>
> <br>
> If that's the best you can do, go to your quarters. Send me your sword.<br>
> <br>
> I've been pretty tolerant of you over the years, but it's been a stretch.<br>
> <br>
> Do your damn homework before telling me something I'd just told you.<br>
> <br>
> Cheers,<br>
> -- jr '<admin/>' a<br>
> <br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
>> From: "Mel Beckman" <<a href="mailto:mel@beckman.org" target="_blank">mel@beckman.org</a>><br>
>> To: "jra" <<a href="mailto:jra@baylink.com" target="_blank">jra@baylink.com</a>><br>
>> Cc: "Michael B. Williams" <<a href="mailto:michael.williams@glexia.com" target="_blank">michael.williams@glexia.com</a>>, "Outages Discussion"<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:outages-discussion@outages.org" target="_blank">outages-discussion@outages.org</a>><br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 10:26:58 PM<br>
>> Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] 911 outage - MA statewide<br>
> <br>
>> Seems pretty simple. I just googled “how to make a test call to 911”,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> That produced as the first top result (after Google’s AI thingie):<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://www.911.gov/calling-911/frequently-asked-questions/#:~:text=Test%20calls%20confirm%20that%20your,its%20non%2Demergency%20phone%20number" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.911.gov/calling-911/frequently-asked-questions/#:~:text=Test%20calls%20confirm%20that%20your,its%20non%2Demergency%20phone%20number</a>.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> That opens to a national PSAP FAQ, the ninth question of which is:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Q.How do I place a "test" call to make sure 911 works for me?<br>
>><br>
>> A. Test calls confirm that your local 911 service can receive your 911 call and<br>
>> has the correct location information. Test calls can be scheduled by contacting<br>
>> your local 911 call center via its non-emergency phone number.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> In your preferred search engine, search the key words “emergency communications<br>
>> center non-emergency number" and include the names of the city or town, state,<br>
>> and county or parish in your search. Test calls may need to be scheduled and<br>
>> are usually based on the workload experienced at the PSAP.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> For more information, visit the National Association of State 911<br>
>> Administrators<<a href="https://www.nasna911.org/home" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nasna911.org/home</a>> site.<br>
>><br>
>> Please do not call 911 to obtain the non-emergency number.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Googling “emergency communications center non-emergency number"<br>
>><br>
>> as instructed along with a city name got me the non-emergency number every time.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -mel<br>
>><br>
>> On Jun 18, 2024, at 7:04 PM, Jay R. Ashworth <<a href="mailto:jra@baylink.com" target="_blank">jra@baylink.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>I Am Not A Lawyer.<br>
>><br>
>> But if someone tried to charge me for that, I'd just be calm and<br>
>> professional, and tell them that I felt obligated to check the report<br>
>> out in support of my ... whatever community I felt justified it, and if<br>
>> they had a preferred approach, I'd be happy to do it that way *if someone<br>
>> promulgated that information somewhere I could have gotten it*.<br>
>><br>
>> IME, they protect that non-emergency number *to the PSAP* pretty closely;<br>
>> I have it cause I got it as CNID on a callback when I had to read off a<br>
>> dispatcher for requiring me to provide a physical street address *for the<br>
>> middle of a major inter-county bridge*.<br>
>><br>
>> This is why I question Mel's assertion.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> -- jra<br>
>><br>
>> ----- Original Message -----<br>
>> From: "Michael B. Williams" <<a href="mailto:Michael.Williams@glexia.com" target="_blank">Michael.Williams@glexia.com</a>><br>
>> To: "jra" <<a href="mailto:jra@baylink.com" target="_blank">jra@baylink.com</a>><br>
>> Cc: "Mel Beckman" <<a href="mailto:mel@beckman.org" target="_blank">mel@beckman.org</a>>, "Outages Discussion"<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:outages-discussion@outages.org" target="_blank">outages-discussion@outages.org</a>><br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 9:47:14 PM<br>
>> Subject: Re: [Outages-discussion] [outages] 911 outage - MA statewide<br>
>><br>
>> Jay for any of us who get charged are we able to send the police your info<br>
>> to just confirm we were testing because of the alleged outage? Is that the<br>
>> best procedure to follow to address these issues?<br>
>><br>
>> Seems ridiculous that we’d be charged for confirming if 911 service is<br>
>> working for our clients.<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 10:59 Jay R. Ashworth via Outages-discussion <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:outages-discussion@outages.org" target="_blank">outages-discussion@outages.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> [ Moving to -discuss ]<br>
>><br>
>> Googling "911 test call" takes you, largely, here:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://www.911.gov/calling-911/frequently-asked-questions/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.911.gov/calling-911/frequently-asked-questions/</a><br>
>><br>
>> Googling the string they suggest:<br>
>><br>
>> "emergency communications center non-emergency number 727"<br>
>><br>
>> gets me a *lot* of PD and fire non-emergency numbers, but does NOT<br>
>> give me the NE number for the 727 PSAP -- which I know because I<br>
>> *have* that number in my dialling directory, and a complete album<br>
>> of photos of that room before they staffed it about 10 years ago.<br>
>> It's a very pretty call center, attached to the new PCSO building.<br>
>><br>
>> So, how, exactly, are semi-civilians supposed to execute these<br>
>> instructions, Mel? Real-world.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> -- jra<br>
>><br>
>> ----- Original Message -----<br>
>> From: "Mel Beckman" <<a href="mailto:mel@beckman.org" target="_blank">mel@beckman.org</a>><br>
>> To: "Michael B. Williams" <<a href="mailto:michael.williams@glexia.com" target="_blank">michael.williams@glexia.com</a>><br>
>> Cc: "jra" <<a href="mailto:jra@baylink.com" target="_blank">jra@baylink.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:outages@outages.org" target="_blank">outages@outages.org</a><br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 8:48:37 PM<br>
>> Subject: Re: [outages] 911 outage - MA statewide<br>
>><br>
>> I’m posting this to the announce side because it appears readers of this<br>
>> list<br>
>> need to know this important info.<br>
>><br>
>> You can’t legally “test call” 911 cold. You have to first schedule the<br>
>> test with<br>
>> your local Public Safety Answering Point (PSAP) using their non-emergency<br>
>> number. You can find the PSAP's non-emergency number in your local phone<br>
>> book<br>
>> or on their website. Some PSAPs may have specific times or dates when<br>
>> they<br>
>> perform test calls, so you must check their website for more information<br>
>> handling BEFORE calling the dispatch center. And you must have an<br>
>> industry need<br>
>> (e.g., phone system installer, first responder, etc) to even schedule a<br>
>> test<br>
>> call. If anyone could make a test call, everyone would be tying up the<br>
>> lines<br>
>> doing that.<br>
>><br>
>> All widely available, public information. You clearly didn’t do any<br>
>> research,<br>
>> such as googling “911 test call”.<br>
>><br>
>> Which is why you’re being charged.<br>
>><br>
>> Continue this discussion on the discuss list.<br>
>><br>
>> -mel<br>
>><br>
>> On Jun 18, 2024, at 4:09 PM, Michael B. Williams via Outages<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:outages@outages.org" target="_blank">outages@outages.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I test-called 911 from about five different phones, and all went<br>
>> through. Now I<br>
>> am facing charges for misuse of 911 system? Seems to be fixed or<br>
>> officially<br>
>> bogus?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 5:24 AM Jay R. Ashworth via Outages<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:outages@outages.org" target="_blank">outages@outages.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> I have a report this 3pm Tue, hour from the authenticated FB page of the<br>
>> Boston<br>
>> PD,<br>
>> that 9-1-1 service is out statewide in Mass; they're handling it as a<br>
>> Code 2<br>
>> AHOD;<br>
>> flag down a cruiser if you need help.<br>
>><br>
>> """<br>
>> 9-11 is currently down statewide.<br>
>><br>
>> If you are experiencing an emergency please pull a Fire Box.<br>
>><br>
>> If you need assistance, please reach out to your local Boston Police<br>
>> District<br>
>> station.<br>
>><br>
>> Boston Police will be patrolling with their blue lights activated for<br>
>> high<br>
>> visibility.<br>
>> Please approach an officer if you need assistance:<br>
>><br>
>> Downtown A-1: (617) 343-4240<br>
>> Charlestown A-15: (617) 343-4888<br>
>> East Boston A-7: (617) 343-4220<br>
>> Roxbury B-2: (617) 343-4270<br>
>> Mattapan B-3: (617) 343-4700<br>
>> South Boston C-6: (617) 343-4730<br>
>> Dorchester C-11: (617) 343-4330<br>
>> South End D-4: (617) 343-4250<br>
>> Allston/Brighton D-14: (617) 343-4260<br>
>> Roslindale/ West Roxbury E-5: (617) 343-4560<br>
>> Jamaica Plain E-13: (617) 343-5630<br>
>> Hyde Park E-18: (617) 343-5600<br>
>> """<br>
>><br>
>> And yes, a fairly wide swath of Mass still has handle-pull fireboxes.<br>
>><br>
>> We knew those would come in handy some day.<br>
>><br>
>> Everything except "Officials say it's fixed now" to -discuss, please.<br>
>><br>
>> And yes, "9-11" is a copy/pasta quote from the posting. Oops.<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> -- jra<br>
>> --<br>
>> Jay R. Ashworth Baylink<br>
>> <a href="mailto:jra@baylink.com" target="_blank">jra@baylink.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:jra@baylink.com" target="_blank">jra@baylink.com</a>><br>
>> Designer The Things I Think<br>
>> RFC 2100<br>
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>> 647 1274<br>
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>> Jay R. Ashworth Baylink<br>
>> <a href="mailto:jra@baylink.com" target="_blank">jra@baylink.com</a><br>
>> Designer The Things I Think RFC<br>
>> 2100<br>
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>> Jay R. Ashworth Baylink <a href="mailto:jra@baylink.com" target="_blank">jra@baylink.com</a><br>
>> Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100<br>
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> <br>
> --<br>
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> Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100<br>
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-- <br>
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