<div dir="auto">To me it’s appearing on outages discussion?<br clear="all"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Sent from Gmail Mobile</div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 14:44 Richard Laager via Outages <<a href="mailto:outages-discussion@outages.org">outages-discussion@outages.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div>This is on outages@, not
outages-discussion@.<br>
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<div>On 2024-06-18 22:07, Mel Beckman via
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<div id="m_-7510300867722042852divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Don
Gould <a href="mailto:don@bowenvale.co.nz" target="_blank"><don@bowenvale.co.nz></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 18, 2024 7:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> richey goldberg <a href="mailto:richey.goldberg@gmail.com" target="_blank"><richey.goldberg@gmail.com></a>;
Mel Beckman <a href="mailto:mel@beckman.org" target="_blank"><mel@beckman.org></a>; Michael B. Williams
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [outages] 911 outage - MA statewide</font>
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<div dir="auto">It's really looks like a post that could be on
the discussion list at this point.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I don't know about others on this list but I'm
getting sick of the many notifications I'm getting and in
considering just unsubscribing</div>
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<div>From: richey goldberg via Outages
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<div>Date: 19/06/24 2:51 pm (GMT+12:00) </div>
<div>To: Mel Beckman <a href="mailto:mel@beckman.org" target="_blank"><mel@beckman.org></a>, "Michael B.
Williams" <a href="mailto:michael.williams@glexia.com" target="_blank"><michael.williams@glexia.com></a>
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<div>Cc: <a href="mailto:outages@outages.org" target="_blank">outages@outages.org</a> </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [outages] 911 outage - MA statewide </div>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt">It
completely depends on the PSAP. When I was doing HPBX
installs on a new install I would call 911 and would lead
with “This is a phone company engineer” Can you verify
the address. They would verify what they had and I
would say thank you and hang up. If what the read to me
was wrong I still just thanked them and hung up and would
address the issue with our E911 provider.<br>
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This is what we were told to do when we contacted the
PSAP. They told us that if they could not accommodate
they would just say something like “Not now” “Call back
later” and hang up. If that happened we were to wait
until the next day and try again.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Other
markets were different. This was more than 10 years ago
so their rules on this may have changed.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-richey</span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Outages
<a href="mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org" target="_blank"><outages-bounces@outages.org></a> on behalf of Mel
Beckman via Outages <a href="mailto:outages@outages.org" target="_blank"><outages@outages.org></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 8:49 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Michael B. Williams
<a href="mailto:michael.williams@glexia.com" target="_blank"><michael.williams@glexia.com></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:outages@outages.org" target="_blank">outages@outages.org</a>
<a href="mailto:outages@outages.org" target="_blank"><outages@outages.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [outages] 911 outage - MA
statewide</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I’m
posting this to the announce side because it appears
readers of this list need to know this important info.
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt">You
can’t legally “test call” 911 cold. You have to
first schedule the test with your local Public
Safety Answering Point (PSAP) using their
non-emergency number. You can find the PSAP's
non-emergency number in your local phone book or on
their website. Some PSAPs may have specific times or
dates when they perform test calls, so you must
check their website for more information handling
BEFORE calling the dispatch center. And you must
have an industry need (e.g., phone system installer,
first responder, etc) to even schedule a test call.
If anyone could make a test call, everyone would be
tying up the lines doing that.
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt">All
widely available, public information. You clearly
didn’t do any research, such as googling “911 test
call”.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Which is why you’re
being charged.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Continue this
discussion on the discuss list.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> -mel</span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Jun 18, 2024, at
4:09</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">PM, Michael B.
Williams via Outages
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I
test-called 911 from about five
different phones, and all went through.
Now I am facing charges for misuse
<span>of 911</span> system?
Seems to be fixed or officially bogus?</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Wed, Jun 19,
2024 at 5:24</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">AM Jay R.
Ashworth via Outages
<a href="mailto:outages@outages.org" target="_blank"><outages@outages.org></a> wrote:</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I have a report
this 3pm Tue, hour from the
authenticated FB page of the Boston PD,<br>
that 9-1-1 service is out statewide in
Mass; they're handling it as a Code 2
AHOD;
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flag down a cruiser if you need help.<br>
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"""<br>
9-11 is currently down statewide.<br>
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If you are experiencing an emergency
please pull a Fire Box.<br>
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If you need assistance, please reach out
to your local Boston Police District
station.<br>
<br>
Boston Police will be patrolling with
their blue lights activated for high
visibility.<br>
Please approach an officer if you need
assistance:<br>
<br>
Downtown A-1: (617) 343-4240<br>
Charlestown A-15: (617) 343-4888<br>
East Boston A-7: (617) 343-4220<br>
Roxbury B-2: (617) 343-4270<br>
Mattapan B-3: (617) 343-4700<br>
South Boston C-6: (617) 343-4730<br>
Dorchester C-11: (617) 343-4330<br>
South End D-4: (617) 343-4250<br>
Allston/Brighton D-14: (617) 343-4260<br>
Roslindale/ West Roxbury E-5: (617)
343-4560<br>
Jamaica Plain E-13: (617) 343-5630<br>
Hyde Park E-18: (617) 343-5600<br>
"""<br>
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And yes, a fairly wide swath of Mass
still has handle-pull fireboxes.<br>
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We knew those would come in handy some
day.<br>
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>> Everything except "Officials
say it's fixed now" to -discuss, please.<br>
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And yes, "9-11" is a copy/pasta quote
from the posting. Oops.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
-- jra<br>
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