[outages] Fiber Cut in NJ? Updated

[Eric Wieling]

We received an Abnormal Event notification from Verizon.  POTS resale, multiple rate centers in NJ, notice number Z12-0253.1

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From: outages-bounces at outages.org [mailto:outages-bounces at outages.org] On Behalf Of Eric Wieling
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 12:29 PM
To: Jeremy Chadwick
Cc: outages at outages.org
Subject: Re: [outages] Fiber Cut in NJ?

It is hard to say because we always have data circuits and POTS down from multiple carriers at multiple locations.   Where "down" means "loss of dialtone" or "on-site router not reachable".

I wondered about a fiber cut this time because we have multiple locations in NJ with ALL POTS down and Verizon has a Mater Ticket.

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From: Jeremy Chadwick [mailto:outages at jdc.parodius.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 11:41 AM
To: Eric Wieling
Cc: outages at outages.org
Subject: Re: [outages] Fiber Cut in NJ?

Eric,

1. Circuits with which carrier?

2. Circuits used for data or voice?

3. When did the circuits go down (include timezone)?

4. What does "down" mean (e.g. LOS, LOF, logically down, or is everything actually up just that data isn't flowing)?

5. Are you able to determine if your issue is truly as wide as an ILEC or if it's specific to just your CLEC?  (They may be the same, but naturally it depends)

It could still be a fiber cut even if it's CLEC-specific, but this gets into a discussion about who owns what, how much of it they own, and what ties in to what.  You know how this goes...

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On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 11:25:19AM -0400, Eric Wieling wrote:
> We have a number of circuits down.  I have received a report of "a major fiber cut in northern NJ impacting a large area."  
> 
> Does anyone have any information as to if this is actually a fiber cut or just ILEC stupidity (as usual)?
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