[outages] define "major" [was:Ok, ok; Jeezus, people... it was a joke.]

[Patrick W. Gilmore]

Feel free to redirict to -discuss if this is more appropriate there.

I think making the definition of "major" more clear would be useful.  Despite Steve's comment about DNS, I think outages of 8.8.8.8 or OpenDNS count as major.  I think state-wide broadband outages also qualifies.

Perhaps put a number of users affected?  Perhaps add an exception for geographical areas, say a whole country or province/state?

Then when people email the list about a traceroute and having 20% packet loss on hop 5 out of 12 and nothing anything else, we can make fun of them.  You know, since that always works.

Oh, I almost forgot: Jay, you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny.  (That should stop him from off-topic posting. :)

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TTFN,
patrick

On Feb 07, 2013, at 20:04 , Carlos Alvarez <carlos at televolve.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Stephen Wilcox <steve.wilcox at ixreach.com>wrote:
> 
>> It should be but it seems to have descended into website outage, dns blips
>> and localised cable provider reporting lately.
>> 
>> Perhaps time for a new list with less noise?
> 
> Or a stronger definition of "major?"  I recently started a discussion on a
> state-wide Cox outage.  That seems major to me, but I really don't know if
> that's within the list terms.  Many times people post up that their one
> home internet connection is down, which clearly is outside the scope.  Some
> better definition and enforcement of such may help.
> 
> There was a discussion on whether Facebook is a major part of
> "infrastructure" some time ago.  As much as most of us would like to say
> it's not, the reality is that to many end users it is the internet or the
> e-mail system.  Does this list apply to that?
> 
> I'm subscribed here so I can learn of things that will affect our
> customers, and therefore us.  We are a VoIP hosted service company with
> customers globally, to IP and PSTN outages everywhere affect us.