[outages] Akamai Geolocation Concerns

Michael Christian michael.c.christian at oracle.com
Fri Jan 17 15:14:11 EST 2020


Round robin is a configurable fallback for Akamai geoloc.  Could just be set up that way.

> On Jan 17, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Dan White via Outages <outages at outages.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jared. We operate our own DNS resolvers, which are seeing the same
> behavior. I wanted to test against a couple of public servers to,
> presumably, rule out a geolocation database problem.
> 
> Josh,
> 
> All looks good with regards to the data provided at
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__thebrotherswisp.com_index.php_geo-2Dand-2Dvpn&d=DwIFAw&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=nhYp4LFzcyp8kP7IBZ0FPKGMvhBKzuMvV2Tq5P57e3Y&m=4qSVlu0MrZxFC4mroQeZv6XFdB3jV7MlmPFpEZP0pec&s=fqBDOJwSS6m2U8iyPPZXc6bbb99kT_PjzGwB0ZDKk1k&e=  with the exception of
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ipligence.com_geolocation&d=DwIFAw&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=nhYp4LFzcyp8kP7IBZ0FPKGMvhBKzuMvV2Tq5P57e3Y&m=4qSVlu0MrZxFC4mroQeZv6XFdB3jV7MlmPFpEZP0pec&s=jVqbouafxWRiInfAileR8Ct66QVBDkJAn1AkRi0x5Xg&e=  which seems to be junk serving junk
> data.
> 
> So far, Akamai is the only provider we are seeing issues with.
> 
> Thanks for the feedback.
> 
> On 01/17/20 14:24 -0500, Jared Mauch wrote:
>> I recommend against using 1.1.1.1 as that may direct you to far away locations.
>> I can help you off-list further.
>> 
>> - Jared
>> 
>>> On Jan 17, 2020, at 2:20 PM, Josh Luthman via Outages <outages at outages.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The IPs you're coming from, look what they say at the various geolocation services here:
>>> 
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__thebrotherswisp.com_index.php_geo-2Dand-2Dvpn_&d=DwIFAw&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=nhYp4LFzcyp8kP7IBZ0FPKGMvhBKzuMvV2Tq5P57e3Y&m=4qSVlu0MrZxFC4mroQeZv6XFdB3jV7MlmPFpEZP0pec&s=UdVUvkiOQW-b3zDEf-sGds26q5KEPK17r5t4pBlzg-o&e= 
>>> Also, have you tried a local DNS server and not Google/Cloudflare Anycast ones?
>>> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 2:13 PM Dan White via Outages <outages at outages.org> wrote:
>>> We are seeing some geolocation oddities with a couple of websites hosted at, or resolved by, Akamai.
>>> 
>>> Two hostnames I'm looking at include:
>>> 
>>> business.officedepot.com
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.teacherspayteachers.com&d=DwIFAw&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=nhYp4LFzcyp8kP7IBZ0FPKGMvhBKzuMvV2Tq5P57e3Y&m=4qSVlu0MrZxFC4mroQeZv6XFdB3jV7MlmPFpEZP0pec&s=A8pPQGBP5DuRjwpeF11MvQXbFGl1w5hBYkvNxlOhqmU&e= 
>>> 'A' records for both have a TTL of 20 seconds, and randomly resolve to IPs in the US, and Europe (we are in the US/Oklahoma).
>>> 
>>> For example, business.officedepot.com is resolving to both 96.17.32.230 and
>>> 88.221.37.87 (at different times). I've verified the same inconsistent
>>> behavior against 8.8.8.8 and 1.1.1.1.
>>> 
>>> This is causing issues for an educational customer of ours. Is anyone aware
>>> of issues within Akamai that may be causing them to source content from
>>> Europe?
> 
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