[outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22
mike tancsa
mike at sentex.net
Thu Feb 22 14:42:57 EST 2024
We were not impacted in Canada as our abundant Maple Syrup and other
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---Mike
On 2/22/2024 2:36 PM, Steele, John via Outages wrote:
> That is bull. I'm a HAM and we have had R3's many times and nothing
> like that happened. She has no clue.
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 1:01 PM Lederer, Linda via Outages
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> Haha neither do I but look at the source of that Tweet.
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> *Subject:* Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network
> 2024-02-22
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> https://twitter.com/i/status/1760684323563602279
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> I don’t buy it!
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> JM
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> *Subject:* Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network
> 2024-02-22
>
> Verizon did have reports of network issues this morning for a
> time, where it seemed their HLR (where SIM cards register to on
> the network) was being flooded by AT&T devices attempting to
> register on their network (which is what cellular devices will do
> when it can’t register). But it cleared up quickly.
>
> Other reports of T-Mobile/Verizon outages appear to just be users
> who can’t contact AT&T users.
>
> Sterling Jaynes
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> Director of IT Operations
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> *From:*Outages <outages-bounces at outages.org> *On Behalf Of *Jim
> Harton via Outages
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2024 12:25 PM
> *To:* Josh Luthman <josh at imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *Cc:* outages <outages at outages.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network
> 2024-02-22
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> A lot of the individuals who claimed to have service issues (at
> least locally) using TMO and VZW claimed that because they were
> attempting to call individuals on AT&T. In two cases of
> individuals I talked to they had full voice and data. I haven't
> seen any confirmation on other providers being down, and VZW put
> out a statement stating they were aware of "another carrier" being
> down, but they were unaffected.
>
> Example from news:
>
> > Verizon said Thursday morning that the outages are not affecting
> its network directly, only customers trying to reach another carrier.
>
> > T-Mobile also said early Thursday that the network didn't suffer
> an outage and is operating normally, and Downdetector numbers
> likely reflect customers attempting to reach users on other networks.
>
> Source:
> https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/t-verizon-t-mobile-customers-hit-widespread-cellular-outages-us-rcna139938
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 11:44 AM Josh Luthman via Outages
> <outages at outages.org> wrote:
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> Can anyone confirm issues with anything besides AT&t? This all
> seems like speculation at this point.
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 12:39 PM Owen DeLong via Outages
> <outages at outages.org> wrote:
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> Modern phones don’t use hardware sims to the best of my
> knowledge, using e-sims instead.
>
> (Though I think there is still a slot for a hardware sim
> in case you need to work with a backwards carrier).
>
> I’ll note that this outage apparently affected ATT,
> Verizon, and T-Mo which account for the vast majority of
> licensed spectrum in the US. (Basically all three primary
> carriers and thus likely every MVNO as well (several of
> them were also mentioned).
>
> An extra SIM might not have been helpful in this case.
>
> Owen
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> On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:31, Tim Burke via Outages
> <outages at outages.org> wrote:
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> Agreed!
>
> After reading through more lines of someone’s
> extremely obnoxious email signature than actual
> discussion in this thread, it seems like there is a
> huge amount of panic associated with this. Yes, it
> sucks that outages happen, and they shouldn’t happen…
> but cell service is a best effort offering and we
> cannot control the telcos and their DR plans (or lack
> thereof).
>
> Modern cell phones all have dual SIM capabilities,
> afaik. If your cell phone is as critical as its played
> out to be, get a second SIM on another carrier. Even
> if it’s just a cheap prepaid SIM on an MVNO that
> doesn’t use the same underlying carrier… It’s cheap
> insurance to keep you connected.
>
> On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:36, richey goldberg via
> Outages <outages at outages.org> wrote:
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>
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> Remember. This stuff is still designed, built, and
> maintained by humans. At least for now….. 😊
>
> -richey
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> *From: *Outages <outages-bounces at outages.org> on
> behalf of Kenny Sallee via Outages
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> *Date: *Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 10:22 AM
> *To: *Lederer, Linda <llederer at quakervalleyfoods.com>
> *Cc: *outages <outages at outages.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT
> cellular network 2024-02-22
>
> I encourage my customers to always assume
> carriers, hardware, and software are going to fail
> and have backup plans/methods. Either the business
> pays for it before it's needed or they lose money
> or productivity that affects the bottom line.
> It's a pretty simple equation: Hey Boss, if the
> business is OK with outages we do not need
> backup/redundancy. But if we are out for x hours
> it will cost y dollars. What's your business
> decision: pay for redundancy/backup or be ok with
> outages? Redundancy is not necessarily a technical
> issue; it is a business issue.
>
> ;)
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 7:38 AM Lederer, Linda via
> Outages <outages at outages.org> wrote:
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> We use a fleet tracking service called Samsara
> which uses ATT – so this has been lovely….
>
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> cellular network 2024-02-22
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> Our whole fleet uses ATT and it seems to
> slowly be dropping with all of them just not
> at the same time.. I agree cant wait to see
> the post mortem
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> One thing I have noticed: At least in some
> affected areas, it doesn’t appear to be all
> customers affected. For example, my phone and
> tablet have no service, but my watch will
> connect to LTE just fine and place and receive
> calls.
>
> Likewise, a buddy of mine came by here, and
> his phones have full 5G service on AT&T. I’ve
> also seen other reports of multiple AT&T
> phones sitting next to each other, some of
> them working perfectly fine, and others having
> no service at all.
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> I’d love to see the postmortem on this.
>
> Jeremy
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