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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I've seen plenty of SONET "rings" where both sides are in the same cable. Not too much protection when doing things that way...<BR>
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I think the southern cross cable system had some customers that discovered several years back that running production traffic on both sides of your ring can seem like a great way to double capacity until a major storm goes through and blows away one of the cables and you don't have any capacity left for protection on the remaining side of the ring.<BR>
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From: outages-bounces@outages.org <outages-bounces@outages.org><BR>
To: outages@outages.org <outages@outages.org><BR>
Sent: Sat Sep 04 06:55:37 2010<BR>
Subject: Re: [outages] Verizon Business OC-48 in Philly, S. New Jersey down<BR>
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Mr. SONET is having tea with the tooth fairy and a unicorn....<BR>
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>From : Frank Bulk <fbulk@mypremieronline.com><BR>
To : john@quonix.net <john@quonix.net>, outages@outages.org<BR>
<outages@outages.org><BR>
Subject : RE: Re: [outages] Verizon Business OC-48 in Philly, S. New<BR>
Jersey down<BR>
Date : Fri, 3 Sep 2010 21:26:08 -0500<BR>
> Where's the SONET? That's my question.<BR>
><BR>
> Frank<BR>
><BR>
> -----Original Message-----<BR>
> From: outages-bounces@outages.org [<A HREF="mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org">mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org</A>]<BR>
On Behalf Of john@quonix.net<BR>
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 8:10 PM<BR>
> To: outages@outages.org<BR>
> Subject: Re: [outages] Verizon Business OC-48 in Philly, S. New Jersey<BR>
down<BR>
><BR>
> This is very similar to an XO OC-48 fiber cut that happened back in<BR>
July.<BR>
> Same areas were effected, South Jersey and Phila. XO was down for 27<BR>
> hours. The OC-48 may well have been Verizon - wonder whats going in<BR>
Jersey<BR>
> with these OC-48 cuts?<BR>
><BR>
> -John<BR>
><BR>
> ----------------------------------------------------<BR>
> From : Jon Radel <jradel@vantage.com><BR>
> To : outages@outages.org <outages@outages.org><BR>
> Subject : Re: [outages] Verizon Business OC-48 in Philly, S. New Jersey<BR>
> down<BR>
> Date : Fri, 03 Sep 2010 20:52:51 -0400<BR>
> > Confirmed fiber cut of a OC-48, still dead, Philadelphia metro area,<BR>
> > and the current status report is:<BR>
> ><BR>
> > "Michael(20:43:14): Your circuit is impacted by a cable cut.<BR>
Technicians<BR>
> > are still at work. In the North Pit, they have excavating the damage<BR>
and<BR>
> > they are prepping the cable for splicing. In the South Pit, they are<BR>
> > still excavating the damage."<BR>
> ><BR>
> > No hint as to how much more was cut at the same time or ETR. But I<BR>
was<BR>
> > thanked for choosing Verizon. :-)<BR>
> ><BR>
> > On 9/3/10 2:03 PM, Jon Radel wrote:<BR>
> > > Or so goes the claim for why a bunch of our DS1s in that area all<BR>
> went<BR>
> > > away ~16:21 UTC. No ETR supplied to us; actually getting any hard<BR>
> data<BR>
> > > out of them right now is proving difficult.<BR>
> > ><BR>
> ><BR>
> > --<BR>
> > Jon Radel<BR>
> ><BR>
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