<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I mentioned this to Virendra in that survey that was sent out, but why do we feel its important to track facebook being up or down?<div><br></div><div>I find this list to be useful in tracking major IP outages between transit carriers. It goes directly to my NOC pager and all my NOC staff, and many times it has been very useful when people post about an OC-48 cut for ATT, or an XO outage, then our customers call us about issues and we know its not us and their carrier.</div><div><br></div><div>I could care less whether or not Facebook is up or down. Facebook doesn't effect the rest of the internet like a Level3 or ATT outage, or or fiber cut in NYC.</div><div><br></div><div>If you go to facebook.com and its down, then yes, its down. End of story. They are an endpoint on the internet.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not opposed to other sites being reported. If Google is down, thats big, because Google provides a ton email proxy services. Likewise, the post about register.com being down was very helpful because they provide core DNS services. These sites/networks effect the internet.</div><div><br></div><div>But facebook is meaningless from an infrastructure/operations standpoint, and is a complete waste of time to discuss on this list.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-John</div><div> </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Nov 18, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Peter Kranz wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Yes and no… Was down even from direct peering connection in Palo Alto, now back up again..<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><br></span></b><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org">outages-bounces@outages.org</a> [<a href="mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ujjval Karihaloo<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:22 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:outages@outages.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">outages@outages.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[outages] Facebook down?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Is Facebook down again?<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Outages mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Outages@outages.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Outages@outages.org</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages</a><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>