<div dir="ltr">Thanks, I am aware of what the traceroute shows and how a traceroute works. The intent of the traceroute was primarily to show where I see our paths between Level 3 and TW Telecom converge.<div><br></div><div>

Plain and simple - we are experiencing connectivity issues over our Level 3 connection, which we're not seeing over our TW Telecom connection for traffic destined to the same location.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra">

<br clear="all"><div>Regards,<br><br>Chris Boulton<br>Bigcommerce<br><br>Email: <a href="mailto:chris@bigcommerce.com" target="_blank">chris@bigcommerce.com</a><br><br>Web: <a href="http://www.bigcommerce.com" target="_blank">http://www.bigcommerce.com/</a></div>


<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:11 AM, Jeremy Chadwick <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jdc@koitsu.org" target="_blank">jdc@koitsu.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

Please see my below post on this matter, which I posted only 2 days ago:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/outages/2013-January/005111.html" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/pipermail/outages/2013-January/005111.html</a><br>
<br>
What you've shown in your mtr does not show any issue of any kind with<br>
Level 3.  The packet loss shown at hops 4/5/6 does not "trickle down"<br>
each subsequent hop (look at hop 7 onward for proof), nor is there any<br>
sign of latency increase either.<br>
<br>
On the other hand, the 2nd mtr you provided shows some degree of packet<br>
loss starting at hop 2 (TW Telecom) which *does* "trickle down" through<br>
all subsequent hops (egress).  If you want to know how many packets were<br>
lost, look at the --order flag to mtr (I recommend --order=LSRNABW).<br>
<br>
Plain and simple: talk to TW Telecom about the loss in their network.<br>
<br>
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On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 05:46:27AM +1100, Chris Boulton wrote:<br>
> Seeing connectivity issues as traffic passes through Level 3 in Dallas -<br>
> not seeing the same issues for where routes converge (<a href="http://above.net" target="_blank">above.net</a> in DFW)<br>
> over our TW Telecom link.<br>
><br>
> Anybody else experiencing this as well?<br>
><br>
> Level 3:<br>
><br>
>  Host                                                     Loss%   Snt<br>
> Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev<br>
>  1. <a href="http://vlan358.car1.Houston1.Level3.net" target="_blank">vlan358.car1.Houston1.Level3.net</a>                       0.0%   167<br>
>  105.9  80.5  31.7 276.4  59.8<br>
>  2. <a href="http://ae-2-5.bar1.Houston1.Level3.net" target="_blank">ae-2-5.bar1.Houston1.Level3.net</a>                        0.0%   167<br>
> 32.5  34.6  32.2  93.8   7.3<br>
>  3. <a href="http://ae-13-13.ebr1.Dallas1.Level3.net" target="_blank">ae-13-13.ebr1.Dallas1.Level3.net</a>                       0.0%   167<br>
> 39.5  37.4  36.7  41.2   0.9<br>
>  4. <a href="http://ae-91-91.csw4.Dallas1.Level3.net" target="_blank">ae-91-91.csw4.Dallas1.Level3.net</a>                      65.1%   167<br>
> 44.5  43.5  39.7  53.8   4.0<br>
>  5. <a href="http://ae-4-90.edge2.Dallas3.Level3.net" target="_blank">ae-4-90.edge2.Dallas3.Level3.net</a>                       5.4%   166<br>
> 37.1  37.9  36.1  75.6   5.1<br>
>  6. <a href="http://ex-3-1-0.er1.dfw2.us.above.net" target="_blank">ex-3-1-0.er1.dfw2.us.above.net</a>                        66.1%   166<br>
> 39.5  43.5  38.9 104.8  12.5<br>
>  7. <a href="http://xe-3-1-0.cr1.dfw2.us.above.net" target="_blank">xe-3-1-0.cr1.dfw2.us.above.net</a>                         0.0%   166<br>
> 37.3  40.4  37.0 114.1  10.6<br>
>  8. <a href="http://xe-0-0-0.er3.dfw2.us.above.net" target="_blank">xe-0-0-0.er3.dfw2.us.above.net</a>                         0.0%   166<br>
> 36.2  39.8  36.1  99.3  10.2<br>
><br>
>  Host                                                     Loss%   Snt<br>
> Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev<br>
>  1. 50.58.18.1                                             0.0%   829<br>
>  4.3  23.9   4.1 121.2  14.5<br>
>  2. <a href="http://dal2-pr2-xe-0-3-0-0.us.twtelecom.net" target="_blank">dal2-pr2-xe-0-3-0-0.us.twtelecom.net</a>                   0.1%   829<br>
> 55.4  31.2   9.4 121.0  17.2<br>
>     <a href="http://dal2-pr2-xe-2-3-0-0.us.twtelecom.net" target="_blank">dal2-pr2-xe-2-3-0-0.us.twtelecom.net</a><br>
>  3. <a href="http://xe-3-0-0.er2.dfw2.us.above.net" target="_blank">xe-3-0-0.er2.dfw2.us.above.net</a>                         0.1%   829<br>
> 44.8  31.6   9.5 143.7  17.9<br>
>  4. <a href="http://xe-0-1-0.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net" target="_blank">xe-0-1-0.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net</a>                         0.2%   829<br>
> 40.5  31.2  10.3 116.2  15.9<br>
>     <a href="http://xe-3-0-0.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net" target="_blank">xe-3-0-0.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net</a><br>
>  5. <a href="http://xe-0-2-0.er3.dfw2.us.above.net" target="_blank">xe-0-2-0.er3.dfw2.us.above.net</a>                         0.2%   829<br>
> 42.7  32.4   9.6 109.2  16.5<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> Chris Boulton<br>
> Bigcommerce<br>
><br>
> Email: <a href="mailto:chris@bigcommerce.com">chris@bigcommerce.com</a><br>
><br>
> Web: <a href="http://www.bigcommerce.com/" target="_blank">http://www.bigcommerce.com/</a><br>
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