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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Looks to me like this might be an issue with Level(3)/ATT peering in Chicago.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I do have one customer complaint of intermittent connectivity which might be related to this issue, but I don’t have an IP from them to test yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> -Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>---- snip 8< ----<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Troy-L3-Edge>traceroute 12.174.136.25<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Type escape sequence to abort.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tracing the route to 12.174.136.25<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 1 ge-6-16.car2.Detroit1.Level3.net (4.53.74.173) [AS 3356] 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 2 ae-11-11.car1.Detroit1.Level3.net (4.69.133.245) [AS 3356] 24 msec 48 msec 104 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 3 ae-8-8.ebr2.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.69.133.242) [AS 3356] 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 4 ae-5-5.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.140.194) [AS 3356] 16 msec 8 msec 8 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 5 4.69.158.157 [AS 3356] 8 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 4.69.158.145 [AS 3356] 8 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 4.69.158.149 [AS 3356] 8 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 6 192.205.37.149 [AS 7018] 12 msec 8 msec 12 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 7 cr1.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.133.34) [AS 7018] 16 msec * 200 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 8 cr81.dtrmi.ip.att.net (12.123.139.158) [AS 7018] 200 msec 200 msec 200 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 9 12.122.102.33 [AS 7018] 200 msec 196 msec 200 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 10 * * *<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 11 * * *<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 12 * * *<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 13<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Troy-L3-Edge><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Troy-L3-Edge><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Troy-L3-Edge>traceroute 12.174.136.25<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Type escape sequence to abort.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tracing the route to 12.174.136.25<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 1 ge-6-16.car2.Detroit1.Level3.net (4.53.74.173) [AS 3356] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 2 ae-11-11.car1.Detroit1.Level3.net (4.69.133.245) [AS 3356] 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 3 ae-8-8.ebr2.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.69.133.242) [AS 3356] 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 4 ae-5-5.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.140.194) [AS 3356] 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 5 4.69.158.149 [AS 3356] 8 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 4.69.158.145 [AS 3356] 8 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 4.69.158.153 [AS 3356] 8 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 6 192.205.37.149 [AS 7018] 12 msec 12 msec 8 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 7 cr1.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.133.34) [AS 7018] 16 msec * 16 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 8 cr81.dtrmi.ip.att.net (12.123.139.158) [AS 7018] 16 msec 20 msec 20 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 9 12.122.102.33 [AS 7018] 16 msec 16 msec 16 msec<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 10 * * *<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 11 * * *<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 12<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Troy-L3-Edge><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>---- snip 8< ----<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> steve.starr@corp.daystarr.net [mailto:steve.starr@corp.daystarr.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Starr, Steve<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 05, 2013 9:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> Bill Wichers<br><b>Cc:</b> Collin Rose; outages@outages.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [outages] Level 3 <-> ATT<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bill,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We are seeing loss to 12.174.136.25 in particular. If you can trace route that please.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>:: Steve Starr<br>:: Daystarr Communications<br>:: <a href="mailto:starrs@daystarr.net" target="_blank">starrs@daystarr.net</a><br>:: v - 989.720.6000<br>:: f - 989.720.6060<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Bill Wichers <<a href="mailto:billw@waveform.net" target="_blank">billw@waveform.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We connect into Level(3) in detroit too. Want me to run any traceroutes from my side to help you isolate anything?<br><br>We haven't received any complaints, but we have two other carriers so we might just not be seeing the problem.<br><span style='color:#888888'><br><span class=hoenzb> -Bill</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: Outages [mailto:<a href="mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org">outages-bounces@outages.org</a>] On Behalf Of Collin<br>> Rose<br>> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 9:47 AM<br>> To: <a href="mailto:outages@outages.org">outages@outages.org</a><br>> Subject: [outages] Level 3 <-> ATT<br>><br>> Anyone aware of issues between AT&T and Level3 ? We are connecting<br>> to Level 3 in Detroit. <a href="http://www.internetpulse.net" target="_blank">http://www.internetpulse.net</a> confirms issues.<br>><br>> Collin Rose<br>> DayStarr Communications<br>> P: <a href="tel:%28989%29%20720-1000">(989) 720-1000</a><br>> F: <a href="tel:%28989%29%20720-6060">(989) 720-6060</a><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Outages mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Outages@outages.org">Outages@outages.org</a><br>> <a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Outages mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Outages@outages.org">Outages@outages.org</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages" target="_blank">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>