<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Just saw another report that HTTPS and IRC were still working. It looks like this was only port 80 that was busted, so I think we can safely add web filtering or parental controls somewhere into the chain of busted things today.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Josh Luthman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com" target="_blank">josh@imaginenetworksllc.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Doesn't appear to be all running, at least their official posting doesn't say so - <div><br></div><div><a href="https://belkininternationalinc.statuspage.io/" target="_blank">https://belkininternationalinc.statuspage.io/</a><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class=""><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><br>Josh Luthman<br>Office: <a href="tel:937-552-2340" value="+19375522340" target="_blank">937-552-2340</a><br>Direct: <a href="tel:937-552-2343" value="+19375522343" target="_blank">937-552-2343</a><br>1100 Wayne St<br>Suite 1337<br>Troy, OH 45373</div></div>
<br></span><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Frank Bulk via Outages <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:outages@outages.org" target="_blank">outages@outages.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#44546a">Why do that if Belkin is up and running again? Or are you suggesting that Belkin doesn’t have it all worked out?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#44546a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#44546a">Frank<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#44546a"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Outages [mailto:<a href="mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org" target="_blank">outages-bounces@outages.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Neiberger via Outages<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 07, 2014 12:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:outages@outages.org" target="_blank">outages@outages.org</a></span></p><div><div><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [outages] Belkin [<a href="http://heartbeat.belkin.com" target="_blank">heartbeat.belkin.com</a>]<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Has anyone else tried the loopback/heartbeat workaround with success? I've seen a few reports so far that this has temporarily solved the problem.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">John<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Frank Bulk <<a href="mailto:frnkblk@iname.com" target="_blank">frnkblk@iname.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#44546a">I can ping <a href="http://heartbeat.belkin.com" target="_blank">heartbeat.belkin.com</a> and the DSL Reports link and other connected links are stating it was back up roughly 30 to 45 minutes ago, so I think we’re out of the woods.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#44546a"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#44546a">Frank</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#44546a"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Outages [mailto:<a href="mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org" target="_blank">outages-bounces@outages.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Neiberger via Outages<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:04 AM<br><b>To:</b> Josh Luthman<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:outages@outages.org" target="_blank">outages@outages.org</a>; John Barbieri<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [outages] Belkin [<a href="http://heartbeat.belkin.com" target="_blank">heartbeat.belkin.com</a>]</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I think it was initially suspected to be a firmware upgrade, but I doubt that's the case now. It's interesting to me that there are two seemingly unrelated fixes:</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">1. Put the IP for <a href="http://heartbeat.belkin.com" target="_blank">heartbeat.belkin.com</a> on a loopback </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">2. Manually add working DNS entries to affected PCs</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Reports indicate that either fix works, but why? They seem unrelated to one another unless the failing heartbeat messages mess up DNS handling on the router.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">John</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Josh Luthman via Outages <<a href="mailto:outages@outages.org" target="_blank">outages@outages.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Where? I keep reading "bad firmware" problems but everything suggests there is no automatic upgrade and I think we can safely assume resi users didn't upgrade their routers over night.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>Josh Luthman<br>Office: <a href="tel:937-552-2340" target="_blank">937-552-2340</a><br>Direct: <a href="tel:937-552-2343" target="_blank">937-552-2343</a><br>1100 Wayne St<br>Suite 1337<br>Troy, OH 45373<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:35 AM, John Barbieri via Outages <<a href="mailto:outages@outages.org" target="_blank">outages@outages.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Funny,<br><br>Just saw something about Belkin routers and a botched firmware upgrade.<br><br>I wonder if this is what they meant.<br><br>That being said, it is working fine from Zito Media in Clanton, AL.<br><br>--John<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>On 10/07/2014 10:17 AM, Paul Miller via Outages wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">On one of my netblocks my subscribers can nolonger ping Belkin. I can ping<br><a href="http://heartbeat.belkin.com" target="_blank">heartbeat.belkin.com</a> from my webservers and from subscriber units on a<br>different netblock.<br><br>Apparently Belkin routers ping the home base every couple seconds to determine<br>the correct color of the Internet light on the router (orange or blue *sigh*).<br>Worse, when it can't ping the Belkin site the router seems to pack up and<br>redirect my subscribers to their router configuration page.<br><br>I found this pretty easy to work around. I simply DNATed the pings intended<br>for <a href="http://heartbeat.belkin.com" target="_blank">heartbeat.belkin.com</a> to one of my local nameservers and that seems to get<br>them back online. 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