<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top">Update: Many numbers seemed to come back for us around 10pm, but then started failing shortly after. So effectively no progress for our vintage point. <div id="yMail_cursorElementTracker_0.23896247730590403"><br></div><div id="yMail_cursorElementTracker_0.23896247730590403">For context, we have close to 200 tfn's from coast to coast. A mix of sip dedicated and switched. <br><br><p><a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android">Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android</a></p> <hr><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="top"> <div style="font-family:Roboto, sans-serif;color:#7e7d80;"><b>From</b>:"Chris Lowe via Outages" <outages@outages.org><br><b>Date</b>:Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 8:26 PM<br><b>Subject</b>:Re: [outages] Anybody else having trouble with Centurylink toll-free #s?<br><br></div> <div
id="msgSandbox_AO12w0MAABMnVejlSAb1QNyJ4yQ_TEXT" class="msgSandbox" style="padding: 1.5em 0.5em 0.5em 1.2em; word-wrap: break-word;">You aren¹t a single point of failure as you are updating the toll-free db<br>which controls what carrier your calls are directed to.<br><br>You pay your long distance charges to the carrier that is handling the<br>calls (so for example, today, up to the time Centurylink started having<br>issues, you would have been paying themŠ when they started having problems<br>and you chang your numbers to point to another carrier (Level 3 for<br>example), you¹d now be accruing charges on Level 3, and not Centurylink).<br>I hope that makes sense.<br><br>There is nothing stopping you from becoming your own resporg. The cost is<br>a few thousand and you would need to have at least 1 person in your<br>company get certified, but it¹s not that hard to do. After that, you are<br>one of roughly 500 total resporg¹s that can
control toll-free numbers.<br>Important note, you can only control the numbers in your resporg. You<br>have no access to other resporg¹s inventory, etc. There are also monthly<br>costs associated with the amount of numbers in your resporg. At the end<br>of the day, you would need to decide if the total cost of ownership is<br>worth it for your business. All the information is published on their<br>website, <a href="http://www.sms800.com" target="_blank">http://www.sms800.com</a><br><br>As for competitors in the independent resporg space, the only ones I know<br>personally are custom toll-free and ATL. ATL has been around for about 20<br>years, and it¹s their entire business model. A quick google search shows<br>oncall resporg services, and resporg solutions also. I do not know anyone<br>at either of the last 2 companies, so I cannot attest to how they operate.<br> I¹ve know people (and the owners) at ATL for
over a decade now, and as I<br>said, CTF is a subsidiary of my company.<br><br>The pros of being your own resporg are that it allows you to do certain<br>things with the origination of toll-free numbers if you want to use<br>multiple carriers full time, and not just as a primary/backup (read: least<br>cost origination). The biggest con is probably the price, if it¹s not a<br>part of your normal business offering, most companies cannot justify<br>roughly 5k to establish themselves plus the recurring costs, if they<br>aren¹t going to use it every day, which, under the context of this thread,<br>you wouldn¹t be using the system every day. You¹d be using it only when<br>you needed to make a change (I assume isn¹t very often under normal<br>circumstances).<br><br><br><br>-Chris<br><br> <br><br><br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 16:18:12 -0700<br>From: Jim Witherell <<a ymailto="mailto:jawitherell@yahoo.com"
href="javascript:return">jawitherell@yahoo.com</a>><br>To: "<a ymailto="mailto:outages@outages.org" href="javascript:return">outages@outages.org</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:outages@outages.org" href="javascript:return">outages@outages.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [outages] Outages Digest, Vol 88, Issue 7<br>Message-ID:<br> <<a ymailto="mailto:1441322292.98726.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web163404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com" href="javascript:return">1441322292.98726.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web163404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>Shameless or not, it's on my mind. Some follow ups (which may be<br>interesting to others, which is why I'm not PMing you...?<br><br>-how do you not become a single point of failure yourself? (I assume your<br>just updating the resporg database)?<br><br>-who would I pay my long distance usage charges to? (I assume whatever<br>carrier I'm pointing to)?<br>-any obvious
pros and cons??<br><br>-can I as a manufacturing company with, let's say, 200 or so toll free<br>numbersnumbers be resporg? (I assume economics are relevant here)?<br><br>-if you list 4 of your competitors to show you're a community minded guy,<br>I'll PM you and ask for your sales rep to give me a pitch.?<br><br><br>This is interesting, and for the others I promise not to drag this out on<br>the group.?<br><br>Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<br><br>From:"Chris Lowe via Outages" <<a ymailto="mailto:outages@outages.org" href="javascript:return">outages@outages.org</a>><br>Date:Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 6:27 PM<br>Subject:Re: [outages] Outages Digest, Vol 88, Issue 7<br><br>The only true way to mitigate is to have the ability to switch the traffic<br>to an alternate carrier using the toll-free mgmt system (sms800).? You?d<br>also have to keep your routing up to date on both carriers (which is<br>usually a PIA) unless you are using the carrier as simple
transport, and<br>your company is doing all the routing/heavy lifting.? If you?re not<br>already a RespOrg, switching the carrier on your number(s) is not an<br>option for you.? There are companies that offer this service (managing<br>toll-free numbers independently), Custom Toll-Free (shameless promotion as<br>they are a subsidiary of my company), and ATL Communications are two such<br>companies.<br><br><br>-Chris<br><br><br><br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 15:14:06 -0700<br>From: Jim Witherell <<a ymailto="mailto:jawitherell@yahoo.com" href="javascript:return">jawitherell@yahoo.com</a>><br>To: "<a ymailto="mailto:Outages@outages.org" href="javascript:return">Outages@outages.org</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:Outages@outages.org" href="javascript:return">Outages@outages.org</a>><br>Cc: outages <<a ymailto="mailto:outages@outages.org" href="javascript:return">outages@outages.org</a>><br>Subject: Re: [outages] Anybody else having
trouble with??? Centurylink<br>??? toll-free #s?<br>Message-ID:<br>??? <<a ymailto="mailto:1441318446.40296.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web163405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com" href="javascript:return">1441318446.40296.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web163405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Sooooo... While we're all waiting.. Anyone have some research references<br>on toll free outage mitigation or 'carrier redundancy"?<br><br><br>My experience is the carrier is the single point of failure and you are<br>absolutely 100% reliant on them. Ways to mitigate that?<br><br><br>Whenever asked (and I just was), I say out hands are tied. I think that's<br>true. Agree??<br><br><br>Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Outages mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Outages@outages.org" href="javascript:return">Outages@outages.org</a><br><a
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