<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div>Changing from fire suite to admin hat after this morning's event due to hosted services going dark. </div><div><br></div><div>My salute to Dyn team, we all know this is a thankless job for the folks on the frontline. </div><div><br></div><div>Anyway yes that's correct, typically conversation does shift to outages-discussion not much direction needed here but just asserting. </div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, shifting hats and getting off the channel.</div><div><br></div><div>73,</div><div>/vrode</div><div><br>On Oct 21, 2016, at 12:06 PM, Dj Padzensky via Outages <<a href="mailto:outages@outages.org">outages@outages.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Interesting though it may be, it's probably a topic better pursued on outages-discussion. My understanding is that outages is really supposed to be limited to what's down, according to whom, impact, ETR, etc.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Can we get a mod to weigh in?<br><br>--Dj<div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div><br>On Oct 21, 2016, at 11:52 AM, Russell Zen via Outages <<a href="mailto:outages@outages.org">outages@outages.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p dir="auto">IMO it's important to factor in the business aspect into our IT work in networking. Then again I came from accounting before IT so I sort of see things in scope of dollars anyway. I appreciate the dialogue.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 11:39 AM -0700, "Mike Davis via Outages"
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<div dir="ltr">Weird... I thought I was subscribed to a mailing list about outages, not pricing debates and pee contests..... I'll have to evaluate my account settings.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Mike Lieman via Outages
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<div dir="ltr">The strangest thing was that while our premium Managed DNS ( Dynect ) domains were having issues, the 40 dollar ones I use for my own personal stuff were rock solid. Guess that layer isn't high profile enough or something?<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Jim Popovitch via Outages
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On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore via Outages<br>
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> Let’s all be clear that Dyn has to be in the top 10 DNS infrastructures on<br>
> the planet. Possibly the largest that sells DNS as a service.<br>
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Which part of Dyn? IIRC, there are multiple layers, and the cheaper<br>
layer(s) weren't anycast and only in 5 locations on single IPs.<br>
That's not saying that Dyn is bad, but some people like to tout them<br>
as the end-all-be-all at $40/yr.... so as with anything you get what<br>
you pay for.<br>
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