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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I think the point has been made that Facebook is relevant to certain businesses. The argument continues because many of us (myself included) joined this list with
the intention of receiving <i>network related </i>outage notifications. Honest question: is it really that hard to create a second list and separate cloud services into one list and network outages into another?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">And Chris, I know you were joking in your email, but I actually agree with it. I think it’s important to point out flaws so we can continually improve. Clearly there
are people here that aren’t happy with the list, so why not try to help improve it so we can eliminate these types of issues?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Anywho, I’m done. I’ve made my point. Thanks for listening! :thumbsup:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Laura Ulrick via Outages<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> outages@outages.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [outages] facebook slow<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>Workplace, Facebook Connect, and Marketing (days before the biggest shopping day of the year) are all critical to enough people- perhaps not everyone, but enough individuals and businesses rely on it to make it critical to
<b>them</b>. <span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p>But I'd rather be able to tell customers that it's down for a large portion of users, than read 20+ emails about how its not important enough to be on this list. Discussing the worthiness of an outage shouldn't take more emails than discussing the actual
outage. <br>
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Which btw- NW Ohio here, mobile is slow but working... desktop is slower and images/posts aren't fully loading.
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Laura<br>
<b>WCOIL Network Operations</b><br>
<i>p: 419.229.2645 x1029<br>
f: 419.229.5278</i> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 11/20/2018 10:26 AM, Russell Zen via Outages wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">have you srsly never heard of workplace by Facebook? Or OpenID?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Outlook for Android</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Outages <a href="mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org">
<outages-bounces@outages.org></a> on behalf of Steven McCrory via Outages <a href="mailto:outages@outages.org">
<outages@outages.org></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 20, 2018 7:22:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Mike Bolitho'; <a href="mailto:outages@ics-il.net">outages@ics-il.net</a>;
<a href="mailto:outages@outages.org">outages@outages.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [outages] facebook slow<span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Wholeheartedly agree<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Outages <a href="mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org">
<outages-bounces@outages.org></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Bolitho via Outages<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 20 November 2018 15:18<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:outages@ics-il.net">outages@ics-il.net</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:outages@outages.org">outages@outages.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [outages] facebook slow<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I would encourage everyone to revisit the info page for the outages mailing list found here: <a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"The purpose of this list is to have a central place to lookup and report so that end users & network operators know why their services (e-mail, phones, etc) went down eliminating the need
to open tons of trouble tickets during a major event. One master ticket - such as fiber cut affect xxx OC48's would suffice. We hope this would empower users and network operators to post such events so that everyone could benefit from it. "</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The list is for reporting outages on carrier networks and has grown to cloud services (AWS, Azure) as those have expanded. Facebook is not a provider of any meaningful business critical services,
and therefore does not fit in this forum.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">- Mike Bolitho</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 7:57 AM Mike Hammett via Outages <<a href="mailto:outages@outages.org">outages@outages.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>To: </b>"jimmy keffer" <<a href="mailto:horsezip@earthlink.net" target="_blank">horsezip@earthlink.net</a>><br>
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<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:50:40 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [outages] facebook slow<br>
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I don’t see the point of sending this in the outages mailing list.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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