<html><head></head><body><div dir="auto"><span style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; ; float: none; display: inline !important;">Also, I believe </span><span style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; ; float: none; display: inline !important;" dir="auto">this specific type of alert cannot be disabled in the U.S. This is the “dear taxpayer</span><span style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; ; float: none; display: inline !important;">, </span><span style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; ; float: none; display: inline !important;">nuclear war has just broken out and you’re</span><span style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; ; float: none; display: inline !important;" dir="auto"> gonna die horribly<caret></caret></span><span style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; ; float: none; display: inline !important;"> </span><span style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; ; float: none; display: inline !important;">but we wanted you to have some </span><span style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; ; float: none; display: inline !important;">time to have regrets” alert. </span><caret style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; unicode-bidi: plaintext; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none;"></caret><span style="font-style: normal; ; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; ; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; ; ; ;San Francisco", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; ; -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; ; float: none; display: inline !important;"> </span><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Ryan McGinnis<br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block" id="protonmail_signature_block"><div dir="auto"><div><a href="mailto:ryan@digicana.com">ryan@digicana.com</a><br></div><div><a href="http://bigstormpicture.com">https://bigstormpicture.com</a><br></div><div>GPG: 5C73 8727 EE58 786A 777C 4F1D B5AA 3FA3 486E D7AD<br></div></div></div> <div class="signature_br" contenteditable="false"><br></div><div class="signature_br" contenteditable="false"><br></div> <div><br></div><div><br></div>On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 15:36, Carlos Alvarez via Outages <<a class="" href="mailto:On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 15:36, Carlos Alvarez via Outages <<a href=">outages@outages.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote">
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<div name="messageReplySection">On Oct 4, 2023 at 1:34 PM -0700, Brandon Svec via Outages <outages@outages.org>, wrote:<br>
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<div>I noticed mine was off the other day and turned it on in anticipation of today’s test. </div>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Oct 4, 2023, at 12:27 PM, Jay R. Ashworth via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><span>I have a report from a usually reliable source that he did not receive today's</span><br>
<span>IPAWS/CMAS/WEA test message, and he surmises this might be because his phone</span><br>
<span>handset is forced to VoWIFI. I have a number of other reports, mostly though</span><br>
<span>not all, from the broadcast engineering community; nobody reported expecting</span><br>
<span>a CMAS and not getting it, so that's not data here.</span><br>
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<span>Is anyone on the list involved with the FEMA/IPAWS/CMAS link, or knows someone</span><br>
<span>who is, and has a channel to clear this query up through?</span><br>
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<span>I could be unsurprised to find that the carrier VoWIFI proxies missed out on</span><br>
<span>proxying SMS Cell Broadcast, which I gather provides the underlying PHY for</span><br>
<span>CMAS.</span><br>
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<span>Cheers,</span><br>
<span>-- jra</span><br>
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