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What my testing experienced based on what I had laying around:<br>
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<span style="font-family: "Lucida Console", Monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">iphone - no service, wifi</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Lucida Console", Monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">samsung - no service/sim, wifi</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Lucida Console", Monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">samsung - off with service/sim</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Lucida Console", Monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">blackview - no service/sim, wifi</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Lucida Console", Monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Alert</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Lucida Console", Monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">samsung - no service/sim, no wifi</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Lucida Console", Monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">xperia - with service/sim, wifi</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Lucida Console", Monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">samsung - with service/sim, alerts off</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Lucida Console", Monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">samsung - with service/sim, alerts on</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Lucida Console", Monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">No alerts that were not received at the time were received.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "Lucida Console", Monaco, monospace; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Depending on the os version it either came up as a Presidential Alert or a National Alert.</span></div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> on behalf of Wilson, Butch via Outages <outages@outages.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 5, 2023 5:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> outages@outages.org <outages@outages.org>; Brad.Chapman@nbcuni.com <Brad.Chapman@nbcuni.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: IPAWS/FEMA National Test - VoWIFI</font>
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<div dir="ltr">I had wondered about the delays yesterday. One of my user's phones went off almost two hours after the window.
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<div dir="ltr">Butch Wilson
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 6:10 PM Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via Outages <<a href="mailto:outages@outages.org">outages@outages.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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Are these alerts queued up for later delivery if a device is off-line, out of range, or connected to a Wi-Fi calling network (where these types of cellular signals are not relayed?)<br>
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If so, how long are they stored before being purged from the system? 1 hour? 24 hours?<br>
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-Brad<br>
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> On Oct 4, 2023, at 2:14 PM, Jay R. Ashworth via Outages <<a href="mailto:outages@outages.org" target="_blank">outages@outages.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> ----- Original Message -----<br>
>> From: "Jay R. Ashworth via Outages" <<a href="mailto:outages@outages.org" target="_blank">outages@outages.org</a>><br>
> <br>
>> I could be unsurprised to find that the carrier VoWIFI proxies missed out on<br>
>> proxying SMS Cell Broadcast, which I gather provides the underlying PHY for<br>
>> CMAS.<br>
> <br>
> I have now an authoritative report that no, the carrier WIFI proxies -- <br>
> carrying your voice calls to your carrier over someone else's wifi and the<br>
> Internet, to be clear -- does *not* proxy the cellular control channel <br>
> necessary to make CMAS/WEA work, and those alerts can be expected NOT to <br>
> arrive if your phone is on WIFI only or out of all range of ANY carrier's <br>
> towers.<br>
> <br>
> The only reports I'm still looking for are ones from people who are sure their<br>
> phone was set to WIFI-only, and was out of range of cell coverage, and still <br>
> got the national test alert, today at 1418EDT.<br>
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> Thanks,<br>
> -- jra<br>
> -- <br>
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