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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2024-06-18 22:07, Mel Beckman via
      Outages wrote:<br>
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          -mel</div>
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          face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Don
          Gould <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:don@bowenvale.co.nz"><don@bowenvale.co.nz></a><br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 18, 2024 7:53 PM<br>
          <b>To:</b> richey goldberg <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:richey.goldberg@gmail.com"><richey.goldberg@gmail.com></a>;
          Mel Beckman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mel@beckman.org"><mel@beckman.org></a>; Michael B. Williams
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:michael.williams@glexia.com"><michael.williams@glexia.com></a><br>
          <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:outages@outages.org">outages@outages.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:outages@outages.org"><outages@outages.org></a><br>
          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [outages] 911 outage - MA statewide</font>
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        <div dir="auto">It's really looks like a post that could be on
          the discussion list at this point.</div>
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        <div dir="auto">I don't know about others on this list but I'm
          getting sick of the many notifications I'm getting and in
          considering just unsubscribing</div>
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        <div dir="auto">D</div>
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        <div id="x_composer_signature" dir="auto">-- <br dir="auto">
          Don Gould<br dir="auto">
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          <div>-------- Original message --------</div>
          <div>From: richey goldberg via Outages
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:outages@outages.org"><outages@outages.org></a> </div>
          <div>Date: 19/06/24 2:51 pm (GMT+12:00) </div>
          <div>To: Mel Beckman <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mel@beckman.org"><mel@beckman.org></a>, "Michael B.
            Williams" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:michael.williams@glexia.com"><michael.williams@glexia.com></a>
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          <div>Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:outages@outages.org">outages@outages.org</a> </div>
          <div>Subject: Re: [outages] 911 outage - MA statewide </div>
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          <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">It
              completely depends on the PSAP.    When I was doing HPBX
              installs on a new install I would call 911 and would lead
              with “This is a phone company engineer”   Can you verify
              the address.    They would verify what they had and I
              would say thank you and hang up.   If what the read to me
              was wrong I still just thanked them and hung up and would
              address the issue with our E911 provider.<br>
              <br>
              This is what we were told to do when we contacted the
              PSAP.   They told us that if they could not accommodate
              they would just say something like “Not now” “Call back
              later” and hang up.   If that happened we were to wait
              until the next day and try again.</span></p>
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          <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Other
              markets were different.    This was more than 10 years ago
              so their rules on this may have changed.</span></p>
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          <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-richey</span></p>
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                      style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">From:
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                    style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Outages
                    <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:outages-bounces@outages.org"><outages-bounces@outages.org></a> on behalf of Mel
                    Beckman via Outages <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:outages@outages.org"><outages@outages.org></a><br>
                    <b>Date: </b>Tuesday, June 18, 2024 at 8:49 PM<br>
                    <b>To: </b>Michael B. Williams
                    <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:michael.williams@glexia.com"><michael.williams@glexia.com></a><br>
                    <b>Cc: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:outages@outages.org">outages@outages.org</a>
                    <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:outages@outages.org"><outages@outages.org></a><br>
                    <b>Subject: </b>Re: [outages] 911 outage - MA
                    statewide</span></p>
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              <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I’m
                  posting this to the announce side because it appears
                  readers of this list need to know this important info.
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                <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">You
                    can’t legally “test call” 911 cold. You have to
                    first schedule the test with your local Public
                    Safety Answering Point (PSAP) using their
                    non-emergency number. You can find the PSAP's
                    non-emergency number in your local phone book or on
                    their website. Some PSAPs may have specific times or
                    dates when they perform test calls, so you must
                    check their website for more information handling
                    BEFORE calling the dispatch center. And you must
                    have an industry need (e.g., phone system installer,
                    first responder, etc) to even schedule a test call.
                    If anyone could make a test call, everyone would be
                    tying up the lines doing that.
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                  <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">All
                      widely available, public information. You clearly
                      didn’t do any research, such as googling “911 test
                      call”.</span></p>
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                    <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt">Which is why you’re
                        being charged.</span></p>
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                    <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt">Continue this
                        discussion on the discuss list.</span></p>
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                          style="font-size:12.0pt"> -mel</span></p>
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                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                            style="font-size:12.0pt">On Jun 18, 2024, at
                            4:09</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span
                            style="font-size:12.0pt">PM, Michael B.
                            Williams via Outages
                            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:outages@outages.org"><outages@outages.org></a> wrote:</span></p>
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                            <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I
                                test-called 911 from about five
                                different phones, and all went through.
                                Now I am facing charges for misuse
                                <span class="x_lm">of 911</span> system?
                                Seems to be fixed or officially bogus?</span></p>
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                                style="font-size:12.0pt">On Wed, Jun 19,
                                2024 at 5:24</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span
                                style="font-size:12.0pt">AM Jay R.
                                Ashworth via Outages
                                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:outages@outages.org"><outages@outages.org></a> wrote:</span></p>
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                            <p class="x_MsoNormal"><span
                                style="font-size:12.0pt">I have a report
                                this 3pm Tue, hour from the
                                authenticated FB page of the Boston PD,<br>
                                that 9-1-1 service is out statewide in
                                Mass; they're handling it as a Code 2
                                AHOD;
                                <br>
                                flag down a cruiser if you need help.<br>
                                <br>
                                """<br>
                                9-11 is currently down statewide.<br>
                                <br>
                                If you are experiencing an emergency
                                please pull a Fire Box.<br>
                                <br>
                                If you need assistance, please reach out
                                to your local Boston Police District
                                station.<br>
                                <br>
                                Boston Police will be patrolling with
                                their blue lights activated for high
                                visibility.<br>
                                Please approach an officer if you need
                                assistance:<br>
                                <br>
                                Downtown A-1: (617) 343-4240<br>
                                Charlestown A-15: (617) 343-4888<br>
                                East Boston A-7: (617) 343-4220<br>
                                Roxbury B-2: (617) 343-4270<br>
                                Mattapan B-3: (617) 343-4700<br>
                                South Boston C-6: (617) 343-4730<br>
                                Dorchester C-11: (617) 343-4330<br>
                                South End D-4: (617) 343-4250<br>
                                Allston/Brighton D-14: (617) 343-4260<br>
                                Roslindale/ West Roxbury E-5: (617)
                                343-4560<br>
                                Jamaica Plain E-13: (617) 343-5630<br>
                                Hyde Park E-18: (617) 343-5600<br>
                                """<br>
                                <br>
                                And yes, a fairly wide swath of Mass
                                still has handle-pull fireboxes.<br>
                                <br>
                                We knew those would come in handy some
                                day.<br>
                                <br>
                                >> Everything except "Officials
                                say it's fixed now" to -discuss, please.<br>
                                <br>
                                And yes, "9-11" is a copy/pasta quote
                                from the posting.  Oops.<br>
                                <br>
                                Cheers,<br>
                                -- jra<br>
                                -- <br>
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