[rbak-nsp] redback-nsp Digest, Vol 15, Issue 5
Milyh Maxim Vadimovich
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> 1. massive subscriber qos profile change (Marcin Kuczera)
> 2. Re: massive subscriber qos profile change (Frans Legdeur)
> 3. Re: massive subscriber qos profile change (Frans Legdeur)
> 4. Re: massive subscriber qos profile change (Marcin Kuczera)
> 5. Re: massive subscriber qos profile change (Sridhar)
> 6. Re: massive subscriber qos profile change (David Freedman)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:46:45 +0100
> From: Marcin Kuczera <marcin at leon.pl>
> Subject: [rbak-nsp] massive subscriber qos profile change
> To: redback-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Message-ID: <49B974B5.3090300 at leon.pl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> hello,
> is there any quick method to change subscriber profile quickly for i.e.
> 5k subscribers ?
> I.e., we double bitrate at 11pm to 8am.
> Normally we use CoA, but.. for every subscriber separately one CoA
> request... this takes a long long time...
> I would like to do something like "please recheck all subscriber
> profiles in radius and change them if needed"...
> Is there such a quick method ?
> Regards,
> Marcin
> ------------------------------
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:11:44 +0100
> From: Frans Legdeur <frans at falco-networks.com>
> Subject: Re: [rbak-nsp] massive subscriber qos profile change
> To: Marcin Kuczera <marcin at leon.pl>, <redback-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> Message-ID: <C5DF3920.2737E%frans at falco-networks.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> Hi Marcin,
> Just shut and no-shut on the port should do, re initiates all sessions for
> the subscribers at once.
> Radius will become a bit busy, but manage it.
> Kind regards,
> Frans.
>> From: Marcin Kuczera <marcin at leon.pl>
>> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:46:45 +0100
>> To: <redback-nsp at puck.nether.net>
>> Subject: [rbak-nsp] massive subscriber qos profile change
>>
>> hello,
>>
>> is there any quick method to change subscriber profile quickly for i.e.
>> 5k subscribers ?
>>
>> I.e., we double bitrate at 11pm to 8am.
>> Normally we use CoA, but.. for every subscriber separately one CoA
>> request... this takes a long long time...
>>
>> I would like to do something like "please recheck all subscriber
>> profiles in radius and change them if needed"...
>>
>> Is there such a quick method ?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Marcin
>> _______________________________________________
>> redback-nsp mailing list
>> redback-nsp at puck.nether.net
>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/redback-nsp
> ------------------------------
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:18:34 +0100
> From: Frans Legdeur <frans at falco-networks.com>
> Subject: Re: [rbak-nsp] massive subscriber qos profile change
> To: Frans Legdeur <frans at falco-networks.com>, Marcin Kuczera
> <marcin at leon.pl>, <redback-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> Message-ID: <C5DF3ABA.27382%frans at falco-networks.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> Sorry Marcin,
> Thought you would like to do this only once, but see that you like to do
> this twice a day, that would make my approach a bit rude ...
> If you would make it a hierarchical QoS methode, the port can be limited to
> a maximum at total speed, which you would let loose later on the day.
> In this way the oversubscription changes instead of the speed per
> subscriber.
> Just my thoughts.
> Frans.
>> From: Frans Legdeur <frans at falco-networks.com>
>> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:11:44 +0100
>> To: Marcin Kuczera <marcin at leon.pl>, <redback-nsp at puck.nether.net>
>> Subject: Re: [rbak-nsp] massive subscriber qos profile change
>>
>> Hi Marcin,
>>
>> Just shut and no-shut on the port should do, re initiates all sessions for
>> the subscribers at once.
>> Radius will become a bit busy, but manage it.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Frans.
>>
>>
>>> From: Marcin Kuczera <marcin at leon.pl>
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:46:45 +0100
>>> To: <redback-nsp at puck.nether.net>
>>> Subject: [rbak-nsp] massive subscriber qos profile change
>>>
>>> hello,
>>>
>>> is there any quick method to change subscriber profile quickly for i.e.
>>> 5k subscribers ?
>>>
>>> I.e., we double bitrate at 11pm to 8am.
>>> Normally we use CoA, but.. for every subscriber separately one CoA
>>> request... this takes a long long time...
>>>
>>> I would like to do something like "please recheck all subscriber
>>> profiles in radius and change them if needed"...
>>>
>>> Is there such a quick method ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Marcin
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> redback-nsp mailing list
>>> redback-nsp at puck.nether.net
>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/redback-nsp
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:24:55 +0100
> From: Marcin Kuczera <marcin at leon.pl>
> Subject: Re: [rbak-nsp] massive subscriber qos profile change
> Cc: redback-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Message-ID: <49B97DA7.1060500 at leon.pl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> Frans Legdeur wrote:
>> Sorry Marcin,
>>
>> Thought you would like to do this only once, but see that you like to do
>> this twice a day, that would make my approach a bit rude ...
>>
>> If you would make it a hierarchical QoS methode, the port can be limited to
>> a maximum at total speed, which you would let loose later on the day.
>> In this way the oversubscription changes instead of the speed per
>> subscriber.
>>
>> Just my thoughts.
> well, we have no oversubscription at this level.
> We just buy as much of throughput as subscribers utilize, and as they
> utilize less at peek-off hours, we want to double their speed.
> But maybe I didn't get your idea..
> Marcin
>>
>> Frans.
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Frans Legdeur <frans at falco-networks.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:11:44 +0100
>>> To: Marcin Kuczera <marcin at leon.pl>, <redback-nsp at puck.nether.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [rbak-nsp] massive subscriber qos profile change
>>>
>>> Hi Marcin,
>>>
>>> Just shut and no-shut on the port should do, re initiates all sessions for
>>> the subscribers at once.
>>> Radius will become a bit busy, but manage it.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Frans.
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Marcin Kuczera <marcin at leon.pl>
>>>> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:46:45 +0100
>>>> To: <redback-nsp at puck.nether.net>
>>>> Subject: [rbak-nsp] massive subscriber qos profile change
>>>>
>>>> hello,
>>>>
>>>> is there any quick method to change subscriber profile quickly for i.e.
>>>> 5k subscribers ?
>>>>
>>>> I.e., we double bitrate at 11pm to 8am.
>>>> Normally we use CoA, but.. for every subscriber separately one CoA
>>>> request... this takes a long long time...
>>>>
>>>> I would like to do something like "please recheck all subscriber
>>>> profiles in radius and change them if needed"...
>>>>
>>>> Is there such a quick method ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Marcin
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> redback-nsp mailing list
>>>> redback-nsp at puck.nether.net
>>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/redback-nsp
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
> ------------------------------
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:35:47 -0700
> From: Sridhar <manisridhar at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [rbak-nsp] massive subscriber qos profile change
> To: Marcin Kuczera <marcin at leon.pl>
> Cc: redback-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Message-ID:
> <bbfbf5610903121435ibeed06bof0d9fad5ec9e9881 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> Hi Marcin,
> I doubt if this is possible with a single command on the SmartEdge.
> My suggestion is to use a shell or expect script running on a *nix box
> . Is this how you currently trigger the CoA requests?
> 1. At 11pm, take a snapshot of all active users on the SmartEdge
> 2. At 5 second intervals, execute "clear subscriber username
> <username>" on the SmartEdge
> The 5-second delay will ensure that the control plan load on the
> SmartEdge and Radius is predictable.
> If the subscribers are clips, then you can try "clear subscriber
> username <username> clips-bounce" .
> HTH,
> sridhar
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Marcin Kuczera <marcin at leon.pl> wrote:
>> hello,
>>
>> is there any quick method to change subscriber profile quickly for i.e. 5k
>> subscribers ?
>>
>> I.e., we double bitrate at 11pm to 8am.
>> Normally we use CoA, but.. for every subscriber separately one CoA
>> request... this takes a long long time...
>>
>> I would like to do something like "please recheck all subscriber profiles in
>> radius and change them if needed"...
>>
>> Is there such a quick method ?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Marcin
>> _______________________________________________
>> redback-nsp mailing list
>> redback-nsp at puck.nether.net
>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/redback-nsp
>>
> ------------------------------
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:56:25 -0000
> From: "David Freedman" <david.freedman at uk.clara.net>
> Subject: Re: [rbak-nsp] massive subscriber qos profile change
> To: "Sridhar" <manisridhar at gmail.com>, "Marcin Kuczera"
> <marcin at leon.pl>
> Cc: redback-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Message-ID:
> <1BD38DD97E9BEB40A599BFCCED93CC7F04CD2E at EXVS01.claranet.local>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> What about the reauthorize bulk command?
> Documentation as to how it works is quite sparse , perhaps redback sridhar, you can find out?
> ------------------------------------------------
> David Freedman
> Group Network Engineering
> Claranet Limited
> http://www.clara.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: redback-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net on behalf of Sridhar
> Sent: Thu 3/12/2009 21:35
> To: Marcin Kuczera
> Cc: redback-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [rbak-nsp] massive subscriber qos profile change
>
> Hi Marcin,
> I doubt if this is possible with a single command on the SmartEdge.
> My suggestion is to use a shell or expect script running on a *nix box
> . Is this how you currently trigger the CoA requests?
> 1. At 11pm, take a snapshot of all active users on the SmartEdge
> 2. At 5 second intervals, execute "clear subscriber username
> <username>" on the SmartEdge
> The 5-second delay will ensure that the control plan load on the
> SmartEdge and Radius is predictable.
> If the subscribers are clips, then you can try "clear subscriber
> username <username> clips-bounce" .
> HTH,
> sridhar
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Marcin Kuczera <marcin at leon.pl> wrote:
>> hello,
>>
>> is there any quick method to change subscriber profile quickly for i.e. 5k
>> subscribers ?
>>
>> I.e., we double bitrate at 11pm to 8am.
>> Normally we use CoA, but.. for every subscriber separately one CoA
>> request... this takes a long long time...
>>
>> I would like to do something like "please recheck all subscriber profiles in
>> radius and change them if needed"...
>>
>> Is there such a quick method ?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Marcin
>> _______________________________________________
>> redback-nsp mailing list
>> redback-nsp at puck.nether.net
>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/redback-nsp
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