[scg-sec] Worth our time? FW: Invitation: Workshop on Datasets for Network Security

Jared Mauch jared at puck.nether.net
Mon Jan 12 09:41:19 EST 2004


On Jan 12, 2004, at 12:12 AM, Sean Donelan wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, Jared Mauch wrote:
>> 	Barry, (i was thinking about calling you about this anyways ..)
>> I'm a bit concerned that the desire by DHS to create as is called
>> "national-level" testbeds will exclude those providers that have
>> built a network with the global perspective in mind as opposed to 
>> those
>> that are only concerned with "protecting our national interests".
>
> I'm getting a lot of requests for data about, on and sniffed from
> our networks.
>
> Extending CALEA to ISPs, establishing a national early warning
> cyber-monitoring center, collecting large scale test sets for
> product evaluations.
>
> How does this help ISPs?
>
	I think it doesn't.  Lists such as nsp-sec where there are DHS reps, 
they glean "intelligence" from the list and they never provide any such 
data back.  No aggregated data either.

	I think the key is that they appear to have nothing to offer and 
everything to take.  A very worrying situation to me.  I don't know 
what others think, but I don't like being involved in parasitic 
situations.  If there is something (of value) they can offer.

	- Jared



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