[VoiceOps] T38 over Sip

[David Hiers]

That whole "legal record" argument is a bit of a red-herring.

Courts have consistently held that any form or record (voicemail,
email, sticky-note, database file, etc) are admissible if they are
"normally produced during the regular course of business".  As soon as
any company decides to use a particular form of record during the
normal course of business, the courts accept those records.

If electronic records had no evidentiary value, there would be no
eDiscovery industry, and a lot more crooked executives and investment
bankers roaming the streets right now.



David




On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Scott Berkman<scott at sberkman.net> wrote:
> This isn't a great work around because it's almost impossible to tell your
> customers "Oh just have the other side turn off ECM on their fax machine and
> force the transmit speed to the lowest possible setting".  If they even
> understand what that means, which they won't, they probably don't have
> access/permissions to make the settings change on the machine.
>
> Every time I have fax issues with a customer I am tempted to tell them just
> how well Email works over IP :).  I know, faxes are legal documents and
> emails are not (in GA anyway), but that just doesn't make any sense to me
> logically.
>
>        -Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org]
> On Behalf Of Kevork Belian
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:20 AM
> To: Junaid Hattia; Alex Balashov
> Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] T38 over Sip
>
> Disable ECM on Cisco gear (AS5400 and the exit gateway of PGW).
> You can disable ECM on the fax machine also.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org [mailto:voiceops-bounces at voiceops.org]
> On Behalf Of Junaid Hattia
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:03 PM
> To: Alex Balashov
> Cc: voiceops at voiceops.org
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] T38 over Sip
>
> Attached is a call flow....
>
> The basic prolem is that a fax call cannot be completed...
>
>
> On 2009/08/28 1:29 PM, "Alex Balashov" <abalashov at evaristesys.com> wrote:
>
>> There are many things that could be wrong there.  Problem description
>> is not sufficient.
>>
>> Junaid Hattia wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy
>>>
>>> Ok so im trying to t38 over sip working with no luck
>>>
>>> My test lab is as follows:
>>>
>>> Pangea box connecting to a AS5400 via PRI, which then traverses an
>>> Acme Session director, broadsoft and then exits via PGW(SS7)
>>>
>>> The sniffer capture says ³failure to train²
>>>
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> --
>>>  junaid
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